YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Would you sign either to a giant QB deal? 1
Epstein's Mother Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Would you sign either to a giant QB deal? No and No. 4
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, MJS said: Let me pull out the world's smallest violin... That term will always remind me of Doug Whaley
RoyBatty is alive Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) I just hope Three years from now the Bills aren't in QB purgatory. I think Minnesota & Arizona are going to be. Edited January 10, 2019 by RoyBatty is alive 2
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Great link again Yolo. I absolutely would not want to sign either of these guys to a monster deal. Are they better than what we've trotted out for much of the year outside of Allen? Sure. But that's not the question. Just good enough to avoid a straight up QB housecleaning, but most certainly not good enough to take you to the promised land on their shoulders, which is the ultimate goal (or should be) of any FO. Would you also add someone like Matthew Stafford to this mix? 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 Just now, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Great link again Yolo. I absolutely would not want to sign either of these guys to a monster deal. Are they better than what we've trotted out for much of the year outside of Allen? Sure. But that's not the question. Just good enough to avoid a straight up QB housecleaning, but most certainly not good enough to take you to the promised land on their shoulders, which is the ultimate goal (or should be) of any FO. Would you also add someone like Matthew Stafford to this mix? I have heard he could be traded. He is kind of like Cousins in a way. Stat accumulator but not a winner. 2
oldmanfan Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 And one of the folks on here who makes grand proclamations about how smart he is at assessing QB play, constantly criticizes Allen, etc. etc., when that draft was coming up claimed he'd trade an entire draft for Winston. 2 1
BuffAlone Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That term will always remind me of Doug Whaley In fact, I don't ever recall hearing that phrase before Whaley. If he was smart, he'd have patented it and could be collecting royalties now?
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: And one of the folks on here who makes grand proclamations about how smart he is at assessing QB play, constantly criticizes Allen, etc. etc., when that draft was coming up claimed he'd trade an entire draft for Winston. Who?? 1
Chandler#81 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 Imo, Winston still has more upside, but he’s probably headed for jail by the time he’s 30. Marriota hasn’t been able to stay healthy enough to grow more into the position. Has either team committed to the 5th year? 1
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: In fact, I don't ever recall hearing that phrase before Whaley. If he was smart, he'd have patented it and could be collecting royalties now? https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000506629/article/whaley-bills-are-almost-in-a-quarterback-purgatory%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league;team%3Dbuf;conf%3Dafc;dvsn%3Dace;plyr%3Dmatthew_cassel;plyr%3Dtyrod_taylor;plyr%3Derik_manuel&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp
BuffAlone Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000506629/article/whaley-bills-are-almost-in-a-quarterback-purgatory%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Daround-the-league;team%3Dbuf;conf%3Dafc;dvsn%3Dace;plyr%3Dmatthew_cassel;plyr%3Dtyrod_taylor;plyr%3Derik_manuel&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23fff&p.bgc1m=%230964bf&p.bgc2m=%23053a74&sr=amp Bad link? Reads error when I clicked it
tbarg12 Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I wouldn't sign either of them to a huge deal, Mariotta can't stay healthy enough to see some on-field progress, and Winston might have more upside after TB signed Arians. But Arians can only do so much, I don't think Winston will stay out of trouble off the field long enough to reap the benefits of Arians tutelage.
Wo-Bah Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Great link again Yolo. I absolutely would not want to sign either of these guys to a monster deal. Are they better than what we've trotted out for much of the year outside of Allen? Sure. But that's not the question. Just good enough to avoid a straight up QB housecleaning, but most certainly not good enough to take you to the promised land on their shoulders, which is the ultimate goal (or should be) of any FO. Would you also add someone like Matthew Stafford to this mix? To the bold: no, personally, I would not. I actually think he's a better than average QB, with little talent around him. Huge arm, can read defenses, always has command of the huddle, and a leader. 4
oldmanfan Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Who?? a jrober 4 2
Philo Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Wo-Bah said: To the bold: no, personally, I would not. I actually think he's a better than average QB, with little talent around him. Huge arm, can read defenses, always has command of the huddle, and a leader. Yup, I agree with this. Also remember that he has had essentially zero run game to support him for the majority of his time in Detroit.
YoloinOhio Posted January 10, 2019 Author Posted January 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: Bad link? Reads error when I clicked it https://www.google.com/amp/s/articles.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/08/buffalo_bills_doug_whaley_quarterback_purgatory.amp try that one 1 1
DCOrange Posted January 10, 2019 Posted January 10, 2019 I think there's at least a chance that Jameis gets a huge contract in Tampa. I don't really foresee that at this point with Mariota, mainly because he can't stay healthy, but he also hasn't been very productive even when he is healthy. I don't envy the position either of those teams are in though. In my opinion, the worst QB situation to be in is having to pay a guy you know is an average-ish starter $20+ million per year. In that situation, I'd rather kick them to the curb and take my chances with a cheap vet and the draft. I imagine that if Jameis has another solid season, he'll get paid though; he already owns basically every passing record in Tampa's history and he's only a year older than Baker Mayfield. 1
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