row_33 Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 golly gee but the podcast experts have shot the biggest ball of ***** ever at the closing to me going from Blondie's death to summer camp deciding on who should take over, reminded me of... Scene: Open to a forest. Arthur: "O knights of Ni, we have brought you your shrubbery. May we go now?" You can probably fill in the next 3 minutes of silliness which has ruined any gravity for me in GoT or other fantasy stuff.. thankfully
K-9 Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 Apparently D.B. Weiss and David Benioff are not too pleased with the drop off in fan quality. https://entertainment.theonion.com/game-of-thrones-showrunners-disappointed-with-how-qua-1834843021 4
row_33 Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 Game of Stools podcast spilled out about 45 f-bombs per minute blasting the finale. LOL
DrDawkinstein Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, LeGOATski said: My point is that the article is saying we're "finally" gonna know, like it's a mystery. It's not, though. We even got a flashback to the Night King being created. It will be interesting to see the finer details, sure, but it's not like we're waiting to "finally" find out. Star Wars gave us a brief origin story of Darth Vader, but we didn't even get a flashback for that. And Vader going to the Dark Side was much more of a process than just getting stabbed in the heart. There was a lot more "mystery" in that regard. For the Night King, we know: How he was made How he gets White Walkers (sons of the north/freefolk) How he raises the dead What his motivations are The Lord of Light is the big mystery. We have much less details and saw no physical representation of him that we know of. I'm 99.9% on the theory that Bran/The Three-Eyed Raven was the actual "Lord of Light". And it was the people who mistook his works for some kind of divine intervention. We know the LoL was the Night King's opposite. Yet the Night King himself was obsessed with the Three-Eyed Raven. The Night King was made under the Weirwood Tree, the same trees that the TER gets his power from. The Night King can raise the dead into Wight Walkers. The LoL can raise the dead into Fire Wights (Jon, Beric, maybe even Melisandre) IMO, I like that they left that up to discussion and interpretation. I personally dont need every detail of every show wrapped up with a bow and spoon fed to me. No fun in that. Edited May 22, 2019 by DrDawkinstein
row_33 Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 nothing mattered in the end all those years of building up Jon's Targaryen bloodline, the prowess of the NIght King, handing the rule to the King of Shade Bron the Broken it didn't matter at all.... and they end up like Seinfeld's prison cell arguing about brothels and other silly things it was fun to watch though 3
Locomark Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 On 5/20/2019 at 7:59 PM, Joe in Winslow said: Nice Nuremberg rally at the beginning. So much lameness left unresolved This guy gets it. Arguably the coolest story arc dropped like it was hot. This wasn't dropped...this will be the next series.... and the faceless man component will be back.
LeGOATski Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 39 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I'm 99.9% on the theory that Bran/The Three-Eyed Raven was the actual "Lord of Light". And it was the people who mistook his works for some kind of divine intervention. We know the LoL was the Night King's opposite. Yet the Night King himself was obsessed with the Three-Eyed Raven. The Night King was made under the Weirwood Tree, the same trees that the TER gets his power from. The Night King can raise the dead into Wight Walkers. The LoL can raise the dead into Fire Wights (Jon, Beric, maybe even Melisandre) IMO, I like that they left that up to discussion and interpretation. I personally dont need every detail of every show wrapped up with a bow and spoon fed to me. No fun in that. I don't mind it, either. They'll probably shed more light on it in the prequel, though.
Heitz Posted May 22, 2019 Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Locomark said: This wasn't dropped...this will be the next series.... and the faceless man component will be back. Sounds like there won't be an Arya spin-off, FWIW Game of Thrones spinoff featuring Arya Stark isn't happening according to HBO boss https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/game-of-thrones-arya-stark-spinoff-hbo BOOOOOO @ HBO ? 1
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 10 hours ago, row_33 said: nothing mattered in the end all those years of building up Jon's Targaryen bloodline, the prowess of the NIght King, handing the rule to the King of Shade Bron the Broken it didn't matter at all.... and they end up like Seinfeld's prison cell arguing about brothels and other silly things it was fun to watch though It all mattered even though the show almost seemed to purposefully try to show it didn't. -Dany doesn't torch the city of Jon doesn't find out about his Targaryen bloodline. -Without the Night King's prowess the Wildling population isn't nearly wiped out, the three eyed raven doesn't die, the children of the forest don't die, Hodor doesn't die, Jon isn't killed in a mutiny to be later ressurrected, the Stark's likely lose Battle of the Bastards without the Wildlings leaving Ramsey as the Warden of the North, Dany's dragon doesn't die, a lot of the secondary characters don't die, and Arya's training doesn't pay off. -As far as Bran being king, the show could've made a convincing case that Bran's goal was to rule Westeros all along. He obviously can see into the future knowing Arya would kill the Night King and his "Why did you think I came all this way?" quote when being offered the iron throne. He made sure Jon knew about his true lineage causing the chain of events that caused Jon stabbing Dany causing him to be exiled up North (taking out the two people with the best claim to the throne). Bran said he didn't want to be king of Winterfell suggesting to Tyrion he'd be the right choice to take the Iron Throne. Competent writers would've made sure the audience knew he didn't simply luck out to claim the ultimate prize.
Doc Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It all mattered even though the show almost seemed to purposefully try to show it didn't. -Dany doesn't torch the city of Jon doesn't find out about his Targaryen bloodline. -Without the Night King's prowess the Wildling population isn't nearly wiped out, the three eyed raven doesn't die, the children of the forest don't die, Hodor doesn't die, Jon isn't killed in a mutiny to be later ressurrected, the Stark's likely lose Battle of the Bastards without the Wildlings leaving Ramsey as the Warden of the North, Dany's dragon doesn't die, a lot of the secondary characters don't die, and Arya's training doesn't pay off. -As far as Bran being king, the show could've made a convincing case that Bran's goal was to rule Westeros all along. He obviously can see into the future knowing Arya would kill the Night King and his "Why did you think I came all this way?" quote when being offered the iron throne. He made sure Jon knew about his true lineage causing the chain of events that caused Jon stabbing Dany causing him to be exiled up North (taking out the two people with the best claim to the throne). Bran said he didn't want to be king of Winterfell suggesting to Tyrion he'd be the right choice to take the Iron Throne. Competent writers would've made sure the audience knew he didn't simply luck out to claim the ultimate prize. Can Bran truly see into the future or is it a "always in motion is the future" kind of thing?
row_33 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Doc said: Can Bran truly see into the future or is it a "always in motion is the future" kind of thing? he's the guy who knew everything that would happen, after it did and doesn't bother telling people in advance i'm sure you have a few of them in your life, they get the Oscars and every sports game correct after its over
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 23, 2019 Author Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) some forgotten faces in real life Edited May 23, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan
Cripple Creek Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 On 5/22/2019 at 7:57 AM, Nervous Guy said: Let's keep this on topic...or maybe you tough guys can go find an octagon somewhere and settle this thing like tough guys do... My apologies. ? 1
row_33 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said: My apologies. ? you still are a tough guy to me.... 1
jkeerie Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Doc Brown said: It all mattered even though the show almost seemed to purposefully try to show it didn't. -Dany doesn't torch the city of Jon doesn't find out about his Targaryen bloodline. -Without the Night King's prowess the Wildling population isn't nearly wiped out, the three eyed raven doesn't die, the children of the forest don't die, Hodor doesn't die, Jon isn't killed in a mutiny to be later ressurrected, the Stark's likely lose Battle of the Bastards without the Wildlings leaving Ramsey as the Warden of the North, Dany's dragon doesn't die, a lot of the secondary characters don't die, and Arya's training doesn't pay off. -As far as Bran being king, the show could've made a convincing case that Bran's goal was to rule Westeros all along. He obviously can see into the future knowing Arya would kill the Night King and his "Why did you think I came all this way?" quote when being offered the iron throne. He made sure Jon knew about his true lineage causing the chain of events that caused Jon stabbing Dany causing him to be exiled up North (taking out the two people with the best claim to the throne). Bran said he didn't want to be king of Winterfell suggesting to Tyrion he'd be the right choice to take the Iron Throne. Competent writers would've made sure the audience knew he didn't simply luck out to claim the ultimate prize. Actually...I don't believe Bran engineered anything. He knew or discerned what was going to happen, but said nothing, just letting things play out. It was Sam that told Jon of his lineage...not Bran. It was Jon that told his sisters, not Bran. (I believe he even said to Jon: "It's up to you," as they all stood near the weirwood tree.) In the end, I think everyone can agree that despite the ending, the final season was rushed and the writing went south.
GoBills808 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 If Brann doesn't control the North (and the Night's Watch by proxy) anymore, why is Sansa making Jon fulfill his punishment?
row_33 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: If Brann doesn't control the North (and the Night's Watch by proxy) anymore, why is Sansa making Jon fulfill his punishment? so GreyWorm will feel this was punishment, GW doesn't know much about the North's situation
GoBills808 Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: so GreyWorm will feel this was punishment, GW doesn't know much about the North's situation Yeh but who gaf about some slighted eunuch general's feelings? We're talking about the brother of the Queen in the North, legitimate (former) heir to Iron Throne, former King in the North, all that. KL doesn't have jurisdiction over Night's Watch anymore, why should Sansa care about keeping Grey Worm happy?
Doc Brown Posted May 23, 2019 Posted May 23, 2019 4 hours ago, row_33 said: he's the guy who knew everything that would happen, after it did and doesn't bother telling people in advance i'm sure you have a few of them in your life, they get the Oscars and every sports game correct after its over Seems he can as everything that played out worked to his advantage. The Night King was defeated and he became King of the Six Kingdoms. Even though he just looked like he was sitting there being useless. 3 hours ago, jkeerie said: Actually...I don't believe Bran engineered anything. He knew or discerned what was going to happen, but said nothing, just letting things play out. It was Sam that told Jon of his lineage...not Bran. It was Jon that told his sisters, not Bran. (I believe he even said to Jon: "It's up to you," as they all stood near the weirwood tree.) In the end, I think everyone can agree that despite the ending, the final season was rushed and the writing went south. It can be argued that Bran knew Jon would tell them if he said "It's up to you" giving him the illusion of choice. Again, we'll never know because of the crappy writing and rushed pace.
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