DrDawkinstein Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I feel like the Dragon Queen is getting a really bad rap and Sansa should be MORE GRATEFUL Were it not for her this would already have gone very differently.... The night king would still be alive....marching towards Kings Landing....Winterfell haven fallen and Sansa and the whole of Winterfell would all be trodding along as the undead and NONE of this makes any difference at this point.....the Golden army and Cercei then stand no chance....and it is only a matter of time before the Night King would have won all.... SO BECAUSE OF THAT.....the Dragon queen is now down to Drogon (as of right this moment) and her huge army obliterated.......she didnt have to do ANY of this... Bunch of ungrateful *$$*754 Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect. But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative.
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect. But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative. oh please, all favours granted are long forgotten, Littlefinger was dispatched fast despite him saving them all from getting flayed
John from Riverside Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, DrDawkinstein said: Well, had she not gotten involved, the NK would never had gotten his own dragon, and therefore never made it through the wall... So there's that aspect. But I agree, Sansa should be more appreciative. I dont know man.....ice dragon or no ice dragon I feel like the Night King makes it through somehow......he had giants too
GoBills808 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I mean, not to pick on you because its not just you, but all the people acting so incredulous regarding a couple of plot holes being unbelievable or illogical, in a show with winter zombies and dragons and magic... is a little much. If youre going to suspend disbelief, lets go all in and enjoy the ride. IMO. I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly?
DrDawkinstein Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: oh please, all favours granted are long forgotten, Littlefinger was dispatched fast despite him saving them all from getting flayed She's probably not wrong to be wary, especially given all that she's been through.
row_33 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: She's probably not wrong to be wary, especially given all that she's been through. for sure, i can't stop her, hard enough in real life... 12 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly? the time and distance travel of the Imp and Little Bird Dude was amazing to behold a few seasons back
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2019 Author Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I dont know man.....ice dragon or no ice dragon I feel like the Night King makes it through somehow......he had giants too HAD giants He had 3 or 4. Watching the ep the 5th time through You see a giant when the Dothraki meet them in battle. Then when the dragons are strafing the field with fire you see a giant get engulfed, that's possibly 2, plus the one Lyanna Mormont killed. Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan
SDS Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly? Because this isn't an episode of 24 Hours.
John from Riverside Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: HAD giants He had 4. Watching the ep the 5th time through You see a giant when the Dothraki meet them in battle. Then when the dragons are strafing the field with fire you see a giant get engulfed, that's possibly 2, plus the one Lyanna Mormont killed. Right...my whole point is in an alternate reality where the Ice King doesnt get a ice dragon I think they still make it through the wall....just sheer numbers somehow.....
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2019 Author Posted May 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly? It takes a fortnight to travel by land half by sea
GoBills808 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, row_33 said: for sure, i can't stop her, hard enough in real life... the time and distance travel of the Imp and Little Bird Dude was amazing to behold a few seasons back And how do they get from Dstone to KL after their whole fleet gets scorpioned? 4 minutes ago, SDS said: Because this isn't an episode of 24 Hours. I'm gonna be a little weirded out when Arya and the Hound show up for Cleganebowl in KL on horseback at the same time as dragongirl's army.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2019 Author Posted May 6, 2019 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: And how do they get from Dstone to KL after their whole fleet gets scorpioned? it wasn't the whole fleet . it was maybe 5 of 25 ships
GoBills808 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: it wasn't the whole fleet . it was maybe 5 of 25 ships So Euron just decided to spare 80% of his enemy's fleet because he's a decent guy? 1
May Day 10 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: I can get behind any amount of fantasy as long as they try to explain it, even just a little...but personally if the space/timeline isn't consistently managed I get totally thrown off. Like...how in the f did they get to KL that quickly? In the interest of moving the story along (we dont need any more of the world-building from all the earlier travels), Im cool with transporting However, attaching a tangible stopwatch, such as cersei's pregnancy throws the timeline out of being plausible. She should have a toddler running around the battlements.
GoBills808 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 Just now, May Day 10 said: In the interest of moving the story along (we dont need any more of the world-building from all the earlier travels), Im cool with transporting However, attaching a tangible stopwatch, such as cersei's pregnancy throws the timeline out of being plausible. She should have a toddler running around the battlements. She should talk to BrannS, the dude is up on westerosi adaptive mobility devices...I think it was his only line iirc. He went from very important 3EyedRaven to wheelchair historian faster than you can ride a horse 1000 miles.
May Day 10 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 1 hour ago, section122 said: Funny how we can both watch a show and reach completely different conclusions. To me Sansa is the only one thinking clearly. Dany is drunk on power, Jon is stuck on his honor code, Cersei has lost her marbles, Euron is clearly not right. Sansa knew Cersei was fos when she said she would send her army, told Jon that Rickon was dead and not to take the bait, told Dany to wait and gather strength before pushing forward, caught on to Littlefinger (real late on the uptake I'll admit). She is smarter than any of the Starks for sure. She understands the game better than most. She is also my pick to end up on the throne or ruling an independent north. I realize that Sansa seems to be thinking clearly now (other than he seemingly unfounded distrust and dislike of Dany, as well as her clinging to the idea of the "North". The undue tension Sansa has been creating with Dany is a primary driver of the upcoming conflict. If Sansa was more supportive and backed Jon from the getgo, things would most likely have been easier. But my issue is the sudden 'pivot' of Sansa being a naive "I like songs" girl who is abused and constantly getting manipulated, to this tough ruler who wears black suits with hoops and chains ornamenting them was kind of hasty and convenient. I don't mind her if she ends up as lord of winterfell/warden of the north because she is the Stark with the best claim (considering Bran recognizes he isnt in fact Bran). To see her end up at the very top of the heap as ruler of Westeros at the end would be lame (IMO) 1
Heitz Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 WTH was that? There were too many dumb moments to mention about last night's episode - from the fact that the army that won "The Great War" suddenly became tactically stupid, to the fact that we didn't get to see the most important moments. I LOVE this show, but last night was a big 'ol disappointment for me... 4 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted May 6, 2019 Author Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: So Euron just decided to spare 80% of his enemy's fleet because he's a decent guy? I don't know why or when he bailed. How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? 1 hour ago, Heitz said: WTH was that? There were too many dumb moments to mention about last night's episode - from the fact that the army that won "The Great War" suddenly became tactically stupid, to the fact that we didn't get to see the most important moments. I LOVE this show, but last night was a big 'ol disappointment for me... it would be better for the early on to be a horses head and the latter a horses *** People need to watch for entertainment purposes and not dissect every detail. its more entertaining ... just saying 1-4 had the books to follow. 5 - 8 they were winging it Edited May 6, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 1
Heitz Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: I don't know when he bailed. How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? Which is one of my biggest beefs with last nights episode! 1) You're up above them, look around. 2) You've had a dragon killed in the past, be a little more cautious when flying into battle. 3) Maybe just don't fly HEAD ON into the boats, loop around and approach from the back so they have to shoot their own sails while you burn them up...
GoBills808 Posted May 6, 2019 Posted May 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I don't know when he bailed. How can you not see a fleet from the sky riding a dragon? He had enough time to scoop Missandei either from out the water or off her ship, so I'm guessing he didn't have to bail at all.
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