Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 2 hours ago, reddogblitz said: I wish we had a GM that could assemble us a team to get to 2 SBs and win 1. I'd take that! Thanks Peyton Manning! 1
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Thanks Peyton Manning! And who signed Peyton Manning? Not Buddy Nix. He tried.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) Just now, reddogblitz said: And who signed Peyton Manning? Not Buddy Nix. He tried. And who picked Paxton Lynch? Edited January 7, 2019 by Joe in Winslow 1
reddogblitz Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: And who picked Paxton Lynch? John Elway. and how many Lombardis are in his GM trophy case? Edited January 7, 2019 by reddogblitz
davefan66 Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 Offer him an additional title, can’t block a promotion.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: John Elway. and how many Lombardis are in his GM trophy case? How many would be there without Manning?
IgotBILLStopay Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Estro said: Denver media reporting multiple teams have reached out to Kugler to set up interviews, but Elway had denied the requests until the Broncos new HC has a chance to assess the current assistants. High chance the Bills are one of those teams. Guy was OL coach here back in 08. Born in Lockport, NY. Would he help our chances of landing Matt Paradis in FA? Kind of a bad look for Elway to be holding assistants hostage when they dont even have a HC. Really screws the coaches that the new coach decides he doesn't want, once all their other opportunities have been filled. Seems Elway is really making Denver an undesirable place to play/work. Anybody remember Kugler when he was here? I dont. Of course I remember him. I think he was the OL coach when Jauron / Gailey were HCs. I don’t think he was fired. After Gailey took over mid season, he left for The Steelers OL position. Thought he left for college - didn’t know he was the Denver OL coach. Though Lynch had 1000 yards with him twice, I felt he did not use him well enough. But he made Fred Jackson what he was - so all in all I felt good above him. I am all for hiring him. I mean he did outstandingly with Lindsay. Don’t blame Elway for not letting him interview. The guy is an OL specialist and every OL FA will want to play for him.
eball Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 I think "Sean Kugler, Assistant Head Coach/Director of OL" sounds like a good title. Get 'er done!
Chris from Rochester Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 This is why I don't like former great players as coaches/ FO guys for the teams they had success with. Feels like it can tarnish legacies. Imagine if Kelly was the GM in the height of the drought and flamed out. I much prefer the team ambassador/ media role for team legends
MrEpsYtown Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Dkollidas said: Does he run more of a zone blocking scheme with more mobile linemen (I would assume that if he was with Denver, they always seem to do a lot of that), or does he use more of a power scheme? Difficult to find that information, but he's coached under Steve Mariucci, Steve Fairlchild, Bruce Arians, and Bill Musgrave, who all run very different schemes. When he was head coach at UTEP, it seems like he ran a lot of power run. Watch some Will Hernandez highlights to get an idea. I do think we need to get back to power and gap scheme running.
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 The word is that Mike Munchak is the front runner for the Denver HC job, and he is an OL coach. He may have his own ideas/philosophies and want to bring over his own assistant. Just a thought.
ProcessAccepted Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 11 hours ago, klos63 said: Possibly, other than Kugler, do we know of others with interview options? It's also possible some of these coaches are pretty happy to still have a chance to have a job with Denver next season. Either way, Elway doesn't want to lose good assistant coaches, can't fault him for that. Assistant coaches won't think twice to leave a team for another job, it works both ways. I think you are missing the point. Are you saying that an assistant coach could be fine with not being allowed interview for a job (a chance to have a job) because they have a chance to keep their current job? All I know is that I'd prefer to have the option of interviewing for a job and then finding out that I would be retained and turning down the first job. I would be very unhappy if I was not allowed to interview while there were openings and then told that I was no longer needed.
Mr. WEO Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 How high would Buffalo be on his list. They dumped him last time.
ProcessAccepted Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How high would Buffalo be on his list. They dumped him last time. Different owners and organization. I think the point is not whether the Bills job would be attractive to him, but how a GM denying interviews impacts that teams reputation. If Kugler is not interested in a job he should be the one turning down the interview.
MJS Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 What does he have to gain by allowing all of his coaches to leave for lateral positions on other teams? Block it if you can. That's why the rule is there.
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 I think it’s fairly common to block until the new HC is hired, unless you really don’t want the guy. The new HC should have the opportunity to evaluate and decide if he wants to keep on staff if still under contract. Bills did this with Schwartz 15 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: Different owners and organization. I think the point is not whether the Bills job would be attractive to him, but how a GM denying interviews impacts that teams reputation. If Kugler is not interested in a job he should be the one turning down the interview. It is important to keep in mind that in some cases (not necessarily saying that it’s the case here) it will be reported that the team is blocking the interview— but the coach is actually not interested in the job, and doesn’t want to burn bridges by turning it down himself so the team says it is blocking it. 1
dpberr Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 I don't fault Elway for doing this. It's a shrewd move. When Chicago hired Matt Nagy, he retained Vic Fangio as the DC. Of course it's on Elway to make his head coaching decision in a timely manner. As an aside what Lynn Swann is doing to Kliff Kingsbury at USC is a different animal altogether.
ProcessAccepted Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I think it’s fairly common to block until the new HC is hired, unless you really don’t want the guy. The new HC should have the opportunity to evaluate and decide if he wants to keep on staff if still under contract. Bills did this with Schwartz It is important to keep in mind that in some cases (not necessarily saying that it’s the case here) it will be reported that the team is blocking the interview— but the coach is actually not interested in the job, and doesn’t want to burn bridges by turning it down himself so the team says it is blocking it. That is a fair point. It will be interesting to see if Kugler interviews anywhere else or if any Broncos assistants interview before a HC is named.
YoloinOhio Posted January 7, 2019 Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ProcessAccepted said: That is a fair point. It will be interesting to see if Kugler interviews anywhere else or if any Broncos assistants interview before a HC is named. Since he was blocked for multiple/all interviews (Bills were only one of the requests) it’s probably not the case here. Even if he didn’t want to work anywhere but Denver, he has no job security right now so makes no sense to turn down all of them. Edited January 7, 2019 by YoloinOhio
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