Doc Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Literally lost out to a guy who got fired from college last year. Pretty telling how other coaches view our future with the current regime. He got fired by the Bills 10 years ago.
Peter Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Literally lost out to a guy who got fired from college last year. Pretty telling how other coaches view our future with the current regime. This is actually a very interesting comment. It is worth keeping in mind as we go through the "process" of looking for and hiring replacement assistant coaches.
GimmeSomeProcess Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, Doc said: He got fired by the Bills 10 years ago. I concur, just like anyone else, it would be tough going back to the employer who fired you, especially when other jobs are available 1
thebandit27 Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Literally lost out to a guy who got fired from college last year. Pretty telling how other coaches view our future with the current regime. Getting a lot of mileage out of this comment on this topic I see. See my response to the last time you said this...it still applies 1 1
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 On 1/12/2019 at 4:22 PM, RochesterRob said: Callahan is 62 and to this point has been a head coach for the Raiders and NCAA Nebraska. Given his age it is only logical that he wants another crack at being a HC regardless of how realistic or unrealistic that may be. Accepting a Offensive Coordinator position would be a stepping stone in that respect. Callahan doesn't want to be a HC again. He is done in that regard. 1 hour ago, Peter said: That is a shame. Kugler is a good coach. Of course, McCoach already had a great OL on staff when he was hired . . . the same guy that is in charge of the running game that ran all over the Cowboys yesterday. That is all true.... but how often in reality do new Head Coaches retain the previous staff? It is more the exception than the rule. The one spot where it does seem to happen is on Special Teams.
BillsFan4 Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Peter said: That is a shame. Kugler is a good coach. Of course, McCoach already had a great OL on staff when he was hired . . . the same guy that is in charge of the running game that ran all over the Cowboys yesterday. McDermott tried to keep Kromer. He wasn’t under contract with the Bills for 2017 and chose to go to LA. I read/heard that Kromer eventually wants to be an offensive coordinator again and Sean McVay either told him that he would have a chance to earn that promotion in LA or that he would do what he could to help prepare him for that chance elsewhere (not sure which, I can’t remember for sure). I sure wish we could have kept him, though. He is definitely, IMO, among the best o-line coaches in the NFL.
Peter Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Callahan doesn't want to be a HC again. He is done in that regard. That is all true.... but how often in reality do new Head Coaches retain the previous staff? It is more the exception than the rule. The one spot where it does seem to happen is on Special Teams. Retaining Crossman and not retaining Kromer was and continues to be mind blowing. We should have retained Sanjay as well. I still don't understand how he got up one morning and decided to fire the team chaplain as well. Seemed so gratuitous. 10 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: McDermott tried to keep Kromer. He wasn’t under contract with the Bills for 2017 and chose to go to LA. I read/heard that Kromer eventually wants to be an offensive coordinator again and Sean McVay either told him that he would have a chance to earn that promotion in LA or that he would do what he could to help prepare him for that chance elsewhere (not sure which, I can’t remember for sure). I sure wish we could have kept him, though. He is definitely, IMO, among the best o-line coaches in the NFL. That is not my understanding. 1
Doc Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: I concur, just like anyone else, it would be tough going back to the employer who fired you, especially when other jobs are available Yup. And I still don't see the attraction with him. In five years as an offensive line coach with the Bills and Steelers, his offensive lines were mostly average in run blocking and below average in pass blocking. Last year he was just a G/C coach. Edited January 13, 2019 by Doc
GunnerBill Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Peter said: Retaining Crossman and not retaining Kromer was and continues to be mind blowing. We should have retained Sanjay as well. I get what you are saying but it just isn't how the league works. New Head Coaches come in and clear out staffs. Kromer is a very good coach. He was the best coach on Rex's staff by a long way, I'd have loved to keep him but I never expected it to be an option.
Doc Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 34 minutes ago, Peter said: Retaining Crossman and not retaining Kromer was and continues to be mind blowing. We should have retained Sanjay as well. You know why they yeah didn't retain Kromer, right? Now does anyone give a *****?
PIZ Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Wondering if Kugler was ever the guy McDermott wanted. Maybe Munchak or another OL coach still in the playoffs?
WideNine Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 I am not current on O-line coaches, but I have always admired how coached-up NE's line is every year even when they seem to play the guy they picked up off the street. Looks like there is a reason they look as good as they do - interesting article rating offensive line coaches (wonder if Dante Scamecchia and Daboll have a connection - maybe the Pegulas can outbid Kraft for his services). O-Line Coaches who "had the juice" last year
Doc Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Why? Because he beat up some kids on a beach.
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, WideNine said: I am not current on O-line coaches, but I have always admired how coached-up NE's line is every year even when they seem to play the guy they picked up off the street. Looks like there is a reason they look as good as they do - interesting article rating offensive line coaches (wonder if Dante Scamecchia and Daboll have a connection - maybe the Pegulas can outbid Kraft for his services). O-Line Coaches who "had the juice" last year Dante is a great coach who they have coaxed oit of retirement once - he works for Belichick or nobody. That said their scheme is and always has been predicated on Brady getting the ball out quickly. That helps their offensive line immesurably.
3rdand12 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, WideNine said: I am not current on O-line coaches, but I have always admired how coached-up NE's line is every year even when they seem to play the guy they picked up off the street. Looks like there is a reason they look as good as they do - interesting article rating offensive line coaches (wonder if Dante Scamecchia and Daboll have a connection - maybe the Pegulas can outbid Kraft for his services). O-Line Coaches who "had the juice" last year and ruffle dear mr Krafts feathers " I don't think so ! 22 minutes ago, Doc said: Because he beat up some kids on a beach. well, his son was there. good times
oldmanfan Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 The most important thing is to get a guy that is in synch with Daboll and can coach proper technique for what he runs. Not how fast we name a guy.
Doc Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 19 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: well, his son was there. good times Yup. But that one incident doomed him in Buffalo.
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