The Wiz Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 When you watch the replay Mills was one of the later guys to get in the pile and was just trying to pull players off of the pile while he was getting his facemask ripped at.
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, WideNine said: Seriously Tom? Rhetorical question as I believe you, but if I understand that correctly, as long as Kiko uses a different dirty play he gets off with a light fine. How messed up is that? "Kicked with left foot, kicked with right foot, elbow to head... that is just silly", should just be a running total of calls against Alonzo for unnecessary roughness against a QBs who have given themselves up - I know he has more than a few of those under his belt. Not quite. Instances of fines are cumulative - next time he gets fined for failing to spear a QB and kicking them in the face instead, the minimum is doubled. After that, it increases at the discretion of the league. But each on-field instance is treated as an isolated incident, in terms of fines. Which means if Kiko spears five QBs, but only fined the fifth time, it's the "first offense" as fines are concerned.
sodbuster Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: It's seems like it doesn't make sense, at first glance. But if you really think about it, you'll figure out that your first impression was right and it really doesn't make any sense. It makes sense when you recall that the NFL doesnt give half a brown crayola about player safety. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: That is just wrong.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Kiko should have easily exceeded the "altar boy" Edelman's 63 large.....both should be finalists in the Walter Payton "(Wo)Man of The Year" award..... 1
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: When you watch the replay Mills was one of the later guys to get in the pile and was just trying to pull players off of the pile while he was getting his facemask ripped at. It was probably when Quinn was pulling his face mask, and Mills was repeatedly shouting "Get your ***** fingers out of my ***** mask, you ***** *****!" He should have just kneed Quinn in the balls until he let go. It's the lesser infraction. 1
WideNine Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Not quite. Instances of fines are cumulative - next time he gets fined for failing to spear a QB and kicking them in the face instead, the minimum is doubled. After that, it increases at the discretion of the league. But each on-field instance is treated as an isolated incident, in terms of fines. Which means if Kiko spears five QBs, but only fined the fifth time, it's the "first offense" as fines are concerned. So much for trying to make the game safer. I don't mind Mills doing what he did, and I think we all have enough of an idea of how McDermott reacted (off camera), probably hugged the big guy.
Peter Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Absurd. Kiko clearly tried to take Josh (and his head) out at full speed. It was just pure luck that there was no helmet to helmet spear, which could have been catastrophic.
formerlyofCtown Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: ? So much for protecting the QB. Maybe Cam has a point when he says they only protect certain QBs. 2
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Peter said: Absurd. Kiko clearly tried to take Josh (and his head) out at full speed. It was just pure luck that there was no helmet to helmet spear, which could have been catastrophic. There's no schedule of fines for "Trying to be unnecessarily rough."
Peter Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, DC Tom said: There's no schedule of fines for "Trying to be unnecessarily rough." That is one of the reasons why this is absurd. All one has to do is compare the punishment of what that prick tried to do with what Mills got to appreciate how absurd the "schedule of fines" is.
DC Tom Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Peter said: That is one of the reasons why this is absurd. That's one of the reason's it's not absurd. It's objectively based on what happens, not subjectively based on an arbitrary measure of the player's failed intent. The reason it's absurd is because it weighs swearing at an official as roughly four times as bad as swearing at another player, which is still higher than kicking a player in the head. And again...Kiko was fined for kicking Allen in the head. He was fined for what actually happened, not what didn't happen but could have.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 The NFL just can’t get out of its own way to help itself...constantly making ridiculous gaffes like this that are a PR dud. How do you justify this? Can our boy appeal the fine and argue disproportionality? Either way, Terry or Josh, step up.
One Buffalo Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 It is ridiculous.... but here is the explanation, apparently the fines are set by CBA 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Someone really needs to tell Von Miller’s mother about this! 1 3
QCity Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 Isn't Kiko a repeat offender? He sure looked like a guy trying to take his frustrations out with a late hit.
from_dunkirk Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: That's so stupid. We should get a fundraiser going to pay the fine. Really?? A fundraiser to pay the fine of a millionaire? How about a fundraiser to help the homeless or other charitable causes? 2 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Pretty sure Mills has 13 grand laying around somewhere. What we should do is start a go fund me to get the asshat who decides these fines fired. No, see my comment above.
vincec Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: So much for protecting the QB. Maybe Cam has a point when he says they only protect certain QBs. He is totally right. Big, strong QBs don't get the same protection as small, fragile ones- especially if they are running. People think Newton and Allen will be fine because they're 6-4 and 235 lbs, whereas Brees and/or Brady would be killed by a similar hit. Edited January 6, 2019 by vincec
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 It seems very apparent that the best way to protect your players from a Kiko Alonzo head shot is to take him out first. It doesn't even seem like there is much of a choice. Next time, by the time the Bills retaliate it's too late.
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