Brianmoorman4jesus Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Yes. Hated the pick on draft night. Now I am at least optimistic and even probably impressed. I still have reservations but I do genuinely like him.
teef Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: I wasn't thrilled draft night considering Rosen was still on the board. Didn't watch any Wyoming football so I didn't know much about the kid. I could only go by his limited highlight reel and what all the pundits thought. At that point I had no choice but to trust McBeane since they get paid to know more than me. My thoughts on him have definitely changed and feel like many that his potential is sky high. Tremendous heart and athleticism. He may or may not be the answer but one thing is certain, we have exciting football back in Buffalo. this is where i was too. i never actually saw any live play when allen was at wyoming. all i had were clips and terrified opinions of him. 1
US Egg Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Just now, Flip Johnson said: I am convinced that there are some people on this board who would have watched Dan Marino in 1983 and said, "we need to see more." Not me, it was clear Marino was the real deal in the 9 games he started in his rookie year. His rookie passing stats blow away Josh Allen's.
hemma Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I think he'll end up being more consistently accurate than Newton. 1
drf1835 Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, TaskerTough said: As soon as I heard that he trained to become a QB by throwing rocks into a barrel on his family farm - I was in. As soon as I knew his family had a barn so his errant passes could hit that, that sold me. Really though, prior to the draft I first wanted mayfield, then convinced myself on rosen, then allen when I guessed the Bills wanted him, or when I knew he would likely be available to the Bills.. I trust the process. I rather have Allen than Mayfield now. I do not like Mayfield's ego. Prefer the more coachable, likeable and down to earth player. I think Allen has far more potential to be really great than the others. Edited January 2, 2019 by drf1835 1
Steptide Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Yes. I was in the same boat as many. I thought he was losman 2.0. I saw some pre draft interviews with him and thought he even had some of that cockiness that losman had. Now that we've gone through a full season though, I realize his cockiness or lack thereof is just leadership. I'm super excited for his future here. I have no doubt he'll work hard to improve this off season. I'm not 100% convinced he's our next franchise qb yet, but I'm really close.
ganesh Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 41 minutes ago, Original Byrd Man said: With out a doubt. He was the last QB I wanted to see land here. My how things change! NowI'm not saying I'm ready to anoint him as THE guy, but he's shown me some promise. +1. From day one, I was happy to have him as our QB. With Darnold and Mayfield gone, our decision came down to between the two Josh's and each one had their own pro's and cons. Allen fits the mould of this town and was the choice. What he showed through the entire season was the eagerness to *continue* to learn every day and become better. We got the right one! 3
gobills1212 Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Maybe one of the other 19 'now how do you feel about josh allen' would have been a good place to offer your opinion? But, as YOUR opinion is special it no doubt deserved its own thread. Happy New Year! Edited January 2, 2019 by gobills1212 1
Mark80 Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Draft Day - Allen was the guy I wanted least out of the 5 projected first rounders. Being the homer that I am I was on board as soon as we picked him (this was the exact same scenario with EJ for me). Now my perspective has completely changed. This kid has something special. Not only is his talent off the charts, but he has the intangibles too. This guy can lead a team (haven't seen this at all from Darnold or Rosen yet, have seen it from Mayfield and Lamar though). Guys seem to respond to him and like him a lot. So much more so than just watching Tyrod on the bench every week not talking to anyone or celebrating with anyone. Just sitting there. Josh is pumping up the D, celebrating with the team, truly leading. So excited to see what he can do with another year of development and adding additional talent around him this off-season. Edited January 2, 2019 by Mark80 3
SMAKCruiser Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 My stomach sank when they announced the pick. The only thing I knew about him was what I heard from the draft analysts and what WGR said on the morning show. The next day I spent a good 10 hours watching his workouts, interviews and his play at Wyoming. After that I made my own judgement and felt good about the pick. 1
Antonio Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Like night and day. He was the QB I didn´t want at all and with Rosen sitting there for us to take I almost had a heart attack when he was announced. I admit I was wrong, he could still "bust" by not beeing an Elit QB like we want him to be, but I don´t think he would be a Bortles/Locker/EJ/Losman/Russell kind of QB. But still, my guy was Mayfield and I still think he would be the better QB in the long run. He just has it. I just hope that Allen vs Mayfield vs Darnol are our new rivarly ala Kelly vs Marino and Elwey Edited January 2, 2019 by Antonio 1
TroutDog Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I trusted the pick then and love it now. When looking at Josh, I believe it’s important to remember that he was a four sport guy in HS, never fully concentrating on football. Then, at JUCO and Wyoming, he never received true QB coaching. He has off the charts potential and I am so thankful we landed him. He is a winner and has a winners mentality along with unparalleled physical traits. 3 2
Big Gun Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Originally wanted Mayfield but was extremely happy with Allen. After watching the combine and highlights I liked what he offered. Didnt really want Rosen, Jackson and was meh on Darnold. Very happy that we seem to have found our guy. IMO Allen has "it". Its been along time since any Bills QB has had "it".
WideNine Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Not me, it was clear Marino was the real deal in the 9 games he started in his rookie year. His rookie passing stats blow away Josh Allen's. Yep - we tend to have rose-colored glasses a bit about the feats of NFL heroes past. Different age and time and different skill sets, and different rules. You could still tell he was going to be a keeper in the NFL of the 80's. Marino had one heck of an offensive line as NFL free agency had not kicked in and teams could build and retain veteran players. He was not extremely mobile and played in 11 games (started 9) and was only sacked 10 times. Was a pocket passer and only scrambled for 45 yards on 28 attempts (do the math) with 5 fumbles and 2 TDs, so.... not Josh. He had one of the quickest releases I have ever seen since Allen - not really needing a full or exaggerated throwing motion to get the ball downfield. Like Allen he pushed the ball past the sticks, unlike Allen he had two all-pro receivers in Duper and Clayton. His completion % was 58.4 5
dpberr Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I did not like the pick because of those accuracy issues. I figured he'd be Jeff George where he'd throw for a billion yards but have a completion percentage of 55% every year. I am impressed with his play, football intelligence and his attitude. Bright future ahead.
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Yes. 1. His athleticism was greatly underrated. Everyone said he was an athlete but none of us knew he was this much of an athlete. I think only Mike Vick has a more prolific six consecutive game rushing streak. Not Newton, not RGIII, not Kaepernick. 2. He showed progress as a passer in his first season. Six games before the bye week: 2 TDs / 5 INTs 21 sacks. Six games after the bye week: 8 TDs / 7 INTs only 7 sacks. The better awareness is obvious in the huge drop off in sacks taken. And he also learned how and when to use his legs after the bye. 2
bdutton Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I was cautiously optimistic. I thought Josh Rosen was the best choice at that position and was very surprised when Allen was taken. The plan at the beginning to have an open competition in camp with a rotation with number 1 team reps between the QB's with Peterman becoming what I thought the obvious choice having performed well in preseason would allow Josh to sit and learn. With the Peterman crash and burn and the injuries that lifted Peterman into the premature starting role and his performance since he came back from his injury has me now very optimistic that we have our QB of the future. He still has some rough edges that needs to be worked out but his ceiling is much higher that any of the other QB's taken in the draft IMO.
CodeMonkey Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: So has your opinion changed on Josh Allen from the draft to now? No it hasn't. What we knew going in was very strong arm, can run, accuracy issues. And that's exactly what we saw this season. 1
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