Are the Bills satisfied with their current RB's ??

[CEN-CAL17]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Hoping Josh Jacobs slips to rd 3 where we gladly snag him

Or package our 3rd with a 5th and 7th to get back into the late 2nd. I think he’ll go around 45-60. Mid to late 2nd.

 

Kid has great size, speed, tough runner and can catch. When he sits down with teams and can understand blitz pickups his stock will go up. Depending on his numbers he may go early 2nd. That’s why I might pass and go with LJ Scott or Darrin Hill rd 4. One of them have to be there early 4th.

[Gray Beard]

Need a big bruiser.   One cut and go.   Move the pile if there isn’t a hole. 

No need to pay a lot, those guys are out there.  

[Pbomb]

I hope not, hoping to sign tevin Coleman and draft one in the fourth . Cut ties with McCoy and ivory

[formerlyofCtown]

You will have to ask them.  I think they will draft one.

[BuffAlone]

8 hours ago, Greatdane21 said:

I feel they will draft one possibly 2 RB , they’ve been pretty good at finding break through players at Rb and cb

we really need to find a great TE !

Draft 2 running backs? Lmao

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

I think they could wait a year because RB generally translates pretty well but Justice Hill is the guy I want if we take one.

 

The way that I see we take an RB in round two is if we traded back in round one and get an extra pick.  

[racketmaster]

6 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I would agree with this if every single RB that played for us did not look the same this year

 

No holes to run through for a shifty back like LM equals no production

No holes to run through for a power back like Chris Ivory equals very little production

Keith Ford.....the same

 

Its the offensive line and run blocking that is the problem

I’m not looking to give the O-line a pass because they were not good this year. But quality running backs can make a difference and we were counting on McCoy to help make the line look better. That never happened this year as his play dropped off significantly. Here is the yards per carry for our rbs who had 20+carries this year. 

Murphy 4.8

Ford 3.8

Ivory 3.3

Mccoy 3.2

Now game flow contribute to some of the difference in yards per carry between McCoy and Murphy but our starting rb was not good enough this year. He finished last amongst our rbs in yards per carry and that is compared to pedestrian runners like Murphy, Ford and Ivory. Too much dancing and not enough explosion to and thru the hole from our top back. I think it is a mistake to bring McCoy back especially at his salary. And at his age I see no reason to think he will be any better next year. 

 

But the Bills seem to believe in McCoy for some reason so I at least hope that the Bills draft an explosive rb who can also catch and run routes (Lindsay, Cohen type at very least). If they could have a little more power to their game ((Kamara) that would be even better. We may not get as good of players as above but something close would help. And then we could keep Ivory for short yardage if needed or acquire a cheaper alternative. 

[The Bills Blog]

If they really believe in Shady (which they shouldn't; the eye test is clear), they may well just roll with these four again. RB isn't a position you have to draft and develop. You can plug and play same-year.

 

With McCoy we are going to see one more year of frustration as every other team's feature back is faster, more authoritative, and more decisive. McCoy has no juice, and Ivory has little. It would be so easy to upgrade this position, and I just don't understand why McBeane seem to be committed to being stubborn with this position. It could really hold us back.

Edited January 1, 2019 by The Bills Blog

[FeelingOnYouboty]

Brian Daboll coached Damien Harris and Joshua Jacobs. Both will be Top 64 picks. Don’t be surprised if we do take one of them in the 2nd.

 

Added bonus is there is no tread on either of them as Alabama does a great job of sharing the RB load.

[ProcessTruster]

6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I would draft a guy in the 4th round and let him battle it out with Ford. With an improved oline Shady & Ivory will be fine. Murphy as 3 on depth. 

yeah RB is not a high draft priority, probably in the 4th or 5th.    Fix the O Line and RB takes care of itself

[Rochesterfan]

10 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

It's seems Shady seems to be in the Bills plans for "19.  Ford and Murphy showed quickness and promise. Chris Ivory ran tough and down hill Sunday.

 

Do we keep them all - or-  draft a RB like Justice Hill from Oklahoma State in the 2nd Round?  He's 5'10", 190, and runs a 4.47 40. 

 

My guess is they will not open needs for the team - so if someone becomes available at the right price if FA or if a guys drops in the draft - they will add to the stable.  

 

If they do do not find the value - they can roll with what we have.  

 

In either case - I imagine by the time training camp rolls around there will be 2-3 more RBs on the roster to supplement those 4 and where they come from will depend on value, but I do not believe they are unhappy with the guys they have.

[bmur66]

No way are the Bills satisfied with their stable of rb’s. Major youth movement coming 

[dgrochester55]

I don't think that the group is that bad and the o-line had a lot to do with it, but Buffalo needs to add some competition via draft and/or free agency.

[Marv's Neighbor]

10 hours ago, PUNT750 said:

It's seems Shady seems to be in the Bills plans for "19.  Ford and Murphy showed quickness and promise. Chris Ivory ran tough and down hill Sunday.

 

Do we keep them all - or-  draft a RB like Justice Hill from Oklahoma State in the 2nd Round?  He's 5'10", 190, and runs a 4.47 40. 

At this point, any talk about Shady is just that, TALK!  No doubt Shady has been a contributor but how does that balance with his cap hit?  Time will tell!

[SoCal Deek]

This isn’t hard to break down. The Bills ran the ball well with Shady the past couple of years. What changed? They lost Wood and Incognito in the middle! It’s no more complicated than that. Fix the offensive line!

End thread.

[Mat68]

A 3rd or 4th should find a solid player.  

[Straight Hucklebuck]

Couldn’t we say that every position group on an offense that finished in the Bottom 3 is a candidate for improvement? 

 

Beane sounded confident with McCoy and Ivory is under contract another year. Still, I think in keeping with the tone of Beane/McDermott, they’ll bring in competition. 

[Rc2catch]

I am sure they plan to add some speed at that position rather drafting or signing. I would expect a free agent we have to blow some of that money somewhere 

[BuffaloRebound]

There’s no way McCoy is getting paid $6m next year by the Bills or anybody else.  He’ll be lucky to get $3m from somebody.  My guess is Bills cut him after he refuses pay cut, and he either retires when nobody pays him or goes to a contender to chase a ring.  Ivory’s got a slightly better chance of coming back at $2.25m.  That’s still way too much for his production but if Bills draft a RB in first 3 rounds instead of signing a vet like Coleman, maybe they bring Ivory back as a veteran presence.  No way both McCoy and Ivory are back next year.  My guess is Ivory and a trade up into the back half of the 2nd round for a RB.  

[machine gun kelly]

12 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I think we will go into next year with what we have knowing that the REAL reason our running game was so bad is the blocking was horrendous

 

Having said that......I have no doubt we will be looking for guy.....either this year or next.....to be Shady's replacement.  

 

At the end of the day.....good teams run the ball no matter who is carrying the rock because the RUN BLOCKING is good.

 

John - I agree we stay with these guys as Murphy is fast and young, we can at least one more good year out of Shady and Ivory with a better line, and the kid didn’t look too bad.  We have to get other parts fixed first on offense, and keep our defensive players.