Thurmal34 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up!
Thurmal34 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 I usually flash a squirrel in a car when I don’t want to talk about white supremacy.
3rdnlng Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up! Is the other 75% of the world's prison population incarcerated too?
DC Tom Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Thurmal34 said: We incarcerate 25% of the world’s prison population. We represent less that 1/12 of the world’s population. make sense? thank god we can afford it. Would much rather invest in keeping the population down than raising them up! Well that is retarded. Did you honestly think you were making a point?
PearlHowardman Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 And people wonder why Christine McKeller gets so much attention. Uh,...
Tiberius Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 If we did more to help children in bad homes we would really reduce the amount of crime
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: If we did more to help children in bad homes we would really reduce the amount of crime This is a fairly astute observation. Too bad the OP was nonsense.
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: This is a fairly astute observation. Too bad the OP was nonsense. It's not an astute observation, because there's not much that can be done to help them. There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family in a child's upbringing, and the existence of such a unit is entirely the responsibility of the adults in the household. Further, the outgrowth of fatherless families, spurred on by the legacy of Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" programs, lends itself to poor outcomes. IE. the "help" has exacerbated the problem. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 4 1
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 28 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: It's not an astute observation, because there's not much that can be done to help them. There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family in a child's upbringing, and the existence of such a unit is entirely the responsibility of the adults in the household. Further, the outgrowth of fatherless families, spurred on by the legacy of Lyndon Johnson's "Great Society" programs, lends itself to poor outcomes. IE. the "help" has exacerbated the problem. I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed.
LeviF Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 18 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed. Weird run-on sentences aside, what's your point? TYTT stated that adults need to be responsible and you respond with...some adults aren't that responsible? Also, Leviticus 18.
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: I agree that a strong morally centered family is the best thing to hope for but just does not happen in a lot of instances and it is not just a minority problem. No, it's not just a minority problem; but those communities do have the highest rate of fatherlessness, and it's not coincidental that fatherlessness has strong ties to poverty (poverty being linked strongly to criminality). The 2013 US Census reported that 72% of blacks, 67% of native Americans, and 53% of Hispanics were born out of wedlock. (29% for whites, and 17% for Asians); and it's growing in all communities. This is a massive problem. 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (5x the national average, from the US census) 90% of homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes. (32x the national average, from the US census) 85% of all children who demonstrate behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes. (20x the national average, from the CDC) 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (9x the national average, from the National Principal's Association Report) 70% of youths in state operated institutions come from fatherless homes. (9x the national average, from the US Dept. of Justice) 85% of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes. (20x the national average, from a Georgia and Texas joint Dept. of Corrections study) This list is by no means comprehensive. Quote A father can be great at professing "thou shall not steal" but not cover the bases in other respects. A cousin grew up in a rural area where the rule was anything goes as long as you "don't hurt somebody." The only problem with that was they considered things such as arson OK because in theory the person would wake up and run out of the house before anybody got burned. You also don't hear anything in church about diddling your brother or sister but it sure would be good for mom and dad to cover that base before puberty so an incident does not happen at age 14 when the parents are out and the kids are home with a bottle of Jack Daniels sitting easily to get to by the kids. It would be nice if every father was like Mike Brady but even in the better homes dad does not fully cover what needs to be addressed. Even in situations where you're dealing with lousy parenting, outcomes are still better in nuclear two parent families. As an example, a Columbia University study found children living in two parent families but having poor father relationships were 68% more likely to engage in risky behavior (smoking, drinking, drugs) when compared to all teens in two parent households. Teens living fatherless households were 30% more likely to engage is such behavior than even those. No, every father is not Mike Brady; but just being there gives your kids a leg up. Again, there is nothing that can replace a nuclear two parent home in a child's upbringing. Nothing. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: There is no substitute for a strong and moral nuclear family 1
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, LeviF91 said: Weird run-on sentences aside, what's your point? TYTT stated that adults need to be responsible and you respond with...some adults aren't that responsible? Also, Leviticus 18. Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society.
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society. The point is, that there is nothing that can replace that responsibility. Their choosing to be irresponsible and selfish will lead to worse outcomes for their children. Edited December 31, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: The picture would have been better if the "daughter" was 7 months along like "mom." Or lose that top for an athletic bra.
LeviF Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 7 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Quite a number of adults are not responsible and that is the point. And saying that they should be responsible does not get the job done in the trailer park nor the cup de sac. i go to church but would readily admit that I would strike out on a Bible themed Jeopardy program and so would most others here. I doubt most would know the Leviticus reference without looking up and that in its self is part of the problem if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of our society. My point with the reference was that there are many churches where you do hear it, when you claimed that you don't. The idea that Christianity or the Bible have nothing to offer in this situation is laughable at best.
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: The point is, that there is nothing that can replace that responsibility. Their choosing to be irresponsible and selfish will lead to worse outcomes for their children. And with that statement you are missing what is taking place in society. Telling me that "nothing can replace responsibility" only works for people who already believe in that concept. How do you get the horse to the trough for those who believe in letting people do what ever they want to do even if it is bad for the person in question?
RochesterRob Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 minute ago, LeviF91 said: My point with the reference was that there are many churches where you do hear it, when you claimed that you don't. The idea that Christianity or the Bible have nothing to offer in this situation is laughable at best. It's not a matter of hearing it but a matter of remembering it which most people here are guilty of. When I say "if you believe that the Bible should be the moral center of society" it is not a matter of people that are already inclined to follow it but people who have no exposure to it or have been conditioned to believe that religion is bad therefore the Bible is bad.
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