DCOrange Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 https://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/2018/12/30/gerald-mccoy-i-gave-this-organization-everything-i-had/ His contract next season is unguaranteed and after the game today, he was responding to questions as if he knows he's being released.
Freddie's Dead Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, DCOrange said: https://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bucs/2018/12/30/gerald-mccoy-i-gave-this-organization-everything-i-had/ His contract next season is unguaranteed and after the game today, he was responding to questions as if he knows he's being released. GIT 'R' DUN!
NewEra Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 He’d be a perfect fit. Good to have big contract guys on the market. If we don’t sign him, someone else will lose 12+ mill in cap space
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 2 hours ago, NewEra said: He’d be a perfect fit. Good to have big contract guys on the market. If we don’t sign him, someone else will lose 12+ mill in cap space Now is the time to sign those kinda guys while Josh Allen is still on his rookie deal for a few more years 1
The Now Moment Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Certainly an option to look at but with a class as deep and as talented in the draft at DT, I think more focus will be on adding veterans to our offensive line. We should be adding more youth to the d-line IMO. That being said, we have a lot of cap space and I would support the decision based on what his talent would bring to this team.
Mark80 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Don't really follow the Bucs so I'm not sure how high of a level he is still playing at. Certainly know he was excellent in the past. We have so much money that we will never be able to spend it all. This is the perfect time to sign impact guys to front loaded deals while we have so much space. That way you don't put yourself in a bad spot a few years down the road. Players love front loaded deals since they get more money sooner. Teams with space love them so they don't screw themselves down the road with bad contracts. Win/win in my book. And obviously we have new vacancy at the position and you can never have too many quality DL to rotate in and out and keep fresh legs out there.
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I would much rather give Phillips 6-8M a year on a 5 year contract and get a cheap 4th DT. Star Harrison Phillips cheap Rotational guy
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I would much rather give Phillips 6-8M a year on a 5 year contract and get a cheap 4th DT. Star Harrison Phillips cheap Rotational guy Who out of those 3 offers superior 3 tech play? Answer: none
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Who out of those 3 offers superior 3 tech play? Answer: none With the Heavy Rotation used I don’t want to give another 12M a year to a guy to play 33% of snaps In that case just draft the player and get cost controlled for 4 years. Edited December 31, 2018 by MAJBobby
TheBeaneBandit Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 That could very well happen with this group of monsters coming out.....
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: With the Heavy Rotation used I don’t want to give another 12M a year to a guy to play 33% of snaps In that case just draft the player and get cost controlled for 4 years. I'm not sure I want to be spending the money that both McCoy and Star will cost, but McCoy would be slotted into a role where he could play 60-70% of snaps even with McD's rotation. I'd certainly rather pay McCoy $12+ mil than paying Star but we're unfortunately saddled with Star already so it might be best to find a cheaper interior pass rusher.
MrEpsYtown Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I would much rather give Phillips 6-8M a year on a 5 year contract and get a cheap 4th DT. Star Harrison Phillips cheap Rotational guy I appreciate your ambition here, but Harrison did nothing this year. He looked small and overmatched. Neither he or Jordan Phillips are starters. I think a three Tech is a glaring need here. McCoy, Sheldon Richardson, Grady Jarrett, those types of guys should be on the radar for us imo.
End The Drought Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, MAJBobby said: I would much rather give Phillips 6-8M a year on a 5 year contract and get a cheap 4th DT. Star Harrison Phillips cheap Rotational guy Not sure Phillips is worth that kind of money but I would be open to a multi year extension. He seemed to love buffalo and brought a lot of energy. However these 4 would not be enough. NE ran all over us and having a guy like McCoy would certainly help with that
MAJBobby Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I appreciate your ambition here, but Harrison did nothing this year. He looked small and overmatched. Neither he or Jordan Phillips are starters. I think a three Tech is a glaring need here. McCoy, Sheldon Richardson, Grady Jarrett, those types of guys should be on the radar for us imo. Then maybe it is time for the 12M dollar DT do more than take up space. And a Rookie that is undersized ooo no. Happens give him an off-season on NFL weight program and watch what happens 27 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I'm not sure I want to be spending the money that both McCoy and Star will cost, but McCoy would be slotted into a role where he could play 60-70% of snaps even with McD's rotation. I'd certainly rather pay McCoy $12+ mil than paying Star but we're unfortunately saddled with Star already so it might be best to find a cheaper interior pass rusher. Agree paying Star already I don’t want to be giving another DT 12M plus. So either fill with what we have or draft a rookie. 14 minutes ago, End The Drought said: Not sure Phillips is worth that kind of money but I would be open to a multi year extension. He seemed to love buffalo and brought a lot of energy. However these 4 would not be enough. NE ran all over us and having a guy like McCoy would certainly help with that I think in a multi year extension Phillips is going to get 6M. If he stays motivated and not turn into the MIA going thru motions guy in year 2 of that new extension it will be a bargain. He has all the tools to be an elite 3 Tech minus the hot and cold motor Edited December 31, 2018 by MAJBobby
Wayne Cubed Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I’m not quite sure why the hesitation to spend the money, this is exactly the time to do it and add to that it’s going to be difficult to spend and get guys to come here anyways. No, not because it’s Buffalo. The Jets had tons of cap space and still had to give out ridiculous contracts and couldn’t get everyone to go there. Why not spend? They don’t have anyone they need to get under contract that they can’t. And the market for other positions of need aren’t looking great.
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