RPbillsfan Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Now that the regular season I'd like to provide two rankings: 1. The 2018 Regular Season 1. Baker Mayfield 2. Lamar Jackson 3. Josh Allen 4. Sam Darnold 5. Josh Rosen Kinda stating obvious Long Term Potential 1. Josh Allen His work ethic and his potential with significant improvements on the line and receiver group will lead to an amazing jump in year 2 and beyond. 2. Sam Darnold Tough choice here as I like Darnold's upside with better talent around him. Has size, developing pocket awareness, great touch and accuracy. More experience will lead to fewer turnovers. 3. Baker Mayfield Think he is close to being as good as he is going to get. Older, with better weapons around him. Great accuracy, pocket awareness and attitude. May be limited long term by size and lack of running ability. 4. Lamar Jackson Needs a lot of development as a passer. Teams will learn how to defense him and keep him in the pocket. Has a solid arm but does have runners mindset and tends to take off if his first read is taken away. Could be great or fade to average. 5. Josh Rosen Just seems to be lacking in a lot of areas, arm strength? Meh, mobility, none, leadership, meh, dedication to the game, tbd. Honestly don't think he's around at the end of his contract. Shall I say, Blaine Gabbert.
Boatdrinks Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Mayfield Jackson Darnold Alllen Rosen same ranking for now and long term based on what they have around them, Coaching/ FO and skill set. Edited December 31, 2018 by Boatdrinks 1
BullBuchanan Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Now: Mayfield, Allen, Jackson, Darnold, Rosen. 3 years from now: Mayfield, Allen, Rosen, Jackson, Darnold
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I truly don’t understand the people that say Mayfield is as good as he’s going to get. 9
Dopey Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Mayfield Jackson Darnold Alllen Rosen Ditto
buffalobillswin Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Saying Mayfield is 3 and not going to get better is a pretty ridiculous (nice way of saying stupid) take Edited December 31, 2018 by buffalobillswin 3
JerseyBills Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 I don't understand the Jackson hype. Tyrod 2.0. Extremely limited in pass game 6 1 1
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Mayfield, Allen, Darnold, Jackson, Rosen 1 1
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Just now, JerseyBills said: I don't understand the Jackson hype. Tyrod 2.0. Extremely limited in pass game Me either.... how long do you think he’ll last running the ball 20 times again. Their offense is a fad and won’t last. I think Baker is going to go down as one of the greats and is far and away the best in the class. The rest are way behind but I’d go: Mayfield Allen/Darnold (tie) Jackson Rosen 5 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I truly don’t understand the people that say Mayfield is as good as he’s going to get. Same. He is going to have an awesome career 1
RPbillsfan Posted December 31, 2018 Author Posted December 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bangarang said: I truly don’t understand the people that say Mayfield is as good as he’s going to get. Mayfield played 4 years in college. Had best players around him his rookie season. Very solid offensive line, almost 1000 yard rusher, excellent WR, TE and RB's. I see him being a pretty consistent 64% completion %, 25 TD, 10 INT guy with limited yards running. Very solid, 10 to 12 year starter. Few Pro Bowl games and nice career. Think Allen and Darnold could put up crazy Aaron Rogers stats based on potential. 1
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 2018 1.) Mayfield 2.) Darnold 3.) Allen 4.) Jackson 5.) Rosen Beyond 1.) Darnold 2.) Mayfield 3.) Allen 4.) Rosen 5.) Jackson 3
thebandit27 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 My pre-draft rankings were: 1A - Rosen 1B - Mayfield 3 - Darnold 4 - Allen 5 - Jackson I may have time at some point this offseason to chart their pro games to see if anything changes, but if I were inclined to change things I'd probably drop Rosen to 3 based on what we saw. 2
BringBackOrton Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 11 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Mayfield played 4 years in college. Had best players around him his rookie season. Very solid offensive line, almost 1000 yard rusher, excellent WR, TE and RB's. I see him being a pretty consistent 64% completion %, 25 TD, 10 INT guy with limited yards running. Very solid, 10 to 12 year starter. Few Pro Bowl games and nice career. Think Allen and Darnold could put up crazy Aaron Rogers stats based on potential. Make it stop.
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 Interesting....take this for what you will: 6 2
billspro Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 They all had pretty solid rookie seasons. Mayfield looks like the only sure thing right now though. It depends on what type of QB you like when ranking the others. Rosen probably had the worst rookie season of the bunch. Just now, BillyWhiteShows said: Interesting....take this for what you will: That probably matches up with most QB evaluators. 1
DCOrange Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Interesting....take this for what you will: This isn't updated for this week yet. They've only graded 7 of today's games, and haven't graded Baker, Lamar, or Rosen yet. I assume it'll be the same order still but I'd guess the gap between Baker and Allen will be a little larger than that. Before the season, I had them ranked, in terms of being ready to play this year: 1. Baker 2. Lamar 3. Rosen 4. Allen 5. Darnold In terms of overall rankings, I had it: 1. Lamar 2. Darnold 3. Allen 4. Baker 5. Rosen After seeing them all play this year, I'd probably go: 1A. Baker 1B. Lamar 3. Allen 4. Darnold 5. Rosen Edited December 31, 2018 by DCOrange
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This isn't updated for this week yet. They've only graded 7 of today's games, and haven't graded Baker, Lamar, or Rosen yet. I assume it'll be the same order still but I'd guess the gap between Baker and Allen will be a little larger than that. Before the season, I had them ranked, in terms of being ready to play this year: 1. Baker 2. Lamar 3. Rosen 4. Allen 5. Darnold In terms of overall rankings, I had it: 1. Lamar 2. Darnold 3. Allen 4. Baker 5. Rosen After seeing them all play this year, I'd probably go: 1A. Baker 1B. Lamar 3. Allen 4. Darnold 5. Rosen I don’t get the love for Lamar 2 1 1
CincyBillsFan Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 This Season Mayfield Allen Darnold/Jackson Rosen Next Season Mayfield/Allen Darnold Jackson Rosen 8 minutes ago, DCOrange said: This isn't updated for this week yet. They've only graded 7 of today's games, and haven't graded Baker, Lamar, or Rosen yet. I assume it'll be the same order still but I'd guess the gap between Baker and Allen will be a little larger than that. Allens QB rating was higher today then Rosen, Baker or Jackson and with 95 yards rushing and 2 rushing TD's I would think the QBR numbers (for what they're worth) will stay pretty much the same with Allen solidly in 2nd place.
cle23 Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, RPbillsfan said: Mayfield played 4 years in college. Had best players around him his rookie season. Very solid offensive line, almost 1000 yard rusher, excellent WR, TE and RB's. I see him being a pretty consistent 64% completion %, 25 TD, 10 INT guy with limited yards running. Very solid, 10 to 12 year starter. Few Pro Bowl games and nice career. Think Allen and Darnold could put up crazy Aaron Rogers stats based on potential. Who are the "excellent" WRs? Landry is good for sure. Higgins is average. Callaway is hit or miss, but has potential. Perriman played well in spurts. Yet Mayfield set the rookie TD record playing 13.5 games. Manning and Wilson who held the record played all 16. On a team that went 1-31 the last 2 years. Edited December 31, 2018 by cle23
Patrick Duffy Posted December 31, 2018 Posted December 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, cle23 said: Who are the "excellent" WRs? Landry is good for sure. Higgins is average. Callaway is hit or miss, but has potential. Perriman played well in sports. Yet Mayfield set the rookie TD record playing 13.5 games. Manning and Wilson who held the record played all 16. On a team that went 1-31 the last 2 years. It is nice to see the Browns finally have a QB that fans can be proud of.
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