SinceThe70s Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's probably true. In which case, why keep him going into this season? Clear the decks and bring in someone you'll give some time to, let Darnold develop with the same OC and system for a few years. I live in Jets country and that was the big head scratcher. You'd be hard pressed to find a Jets fan that has anything good to say about Bowles. There's been a lot of speculation about Mike McCarthy and also a recent report that they'll try to pry Harbaugh loose. But to your point I wonder if they'd consider elevating Bates for continuity.
YoloinOhio Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: I live in Jets country and that was the big head scratcher. You'd be hard pressed to find a Jets fan that has anything good to say about Bowles. There's been a lot of speculation about Mike McCarthy and also a recent report that they'll try to pry Harbaugh loose. But to your point I wonder if they'd consider elevating Bates for continuity. All of those options sound pretty terrible. Bring them on! 1
TheFunPolice Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 Not tonight! Nothing but positive vibes going into tomorrows game against the evil empire...
BillsfaninChicago Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 I hope they win this one for him because I don’t want Marcia Bardy getting a bye next week. 1
Talley56 Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 Let’s hope they give him a fond farewell by beating NE tomorrow. Knock the Pats out of the #2 seed and drop their own draft pick. Two birds with one stone. If the Jets lose they could end up with the #1 pick, though more likely #2.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 I will not miss looking at that *****-eating grin twice a year 1
KD in CA Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, WMDman said: i think this is a mistake, hes done a lot with minimal talent and the jets, to their credit, are in just about every game they play. I agree the Jets usually play hard, but too many games like the recent one against GB where they blow a winnable game.
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, CommonCents said: Per NFL.com I think the Jets are ahead of Buffalo in the rebuild process but this might be a mistake. I don’t think this is a mistake. If anything, it’s a good move for the Jets. Bowles is a good DC, though I don’t think he’s very good as HC 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Well, Bowles has had 4 years and 3 losing seasons, if they win the last game will be 3 years of 5-11. TBH, I really think it's on Maccagnan and Johnson for not giving him a lot of talent. They expected him to work with has-beens and scraps at QB. Then, after this season when they finally got a guy who might amount to something at QB, great idea: fire the HC which will likely mean, a new OC. How to Ruin a Young QB: Give him 3 OC's in 3 years (See Bradford, Sam; Smith, Alex). If Bowles was on a short leash (Win or die) this season, IMO they should have kicked him to the curb and brought in someone new last off season, in the hope of giving a new HC/OC and QB several seasons to develop together. Ruined? Seems to me like both those QB’s had pretty decent careers
apuszczalowski Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I don’t think this is a mistake. If anything, it’s a good move for the Jets. Bowles is a good DC, though I don’t think he’s very good as HC Ruined? Seems to me like both those QB’s had pretty decent careers Exactly, Bradford made a ton of money and his issues in his career was that he couldnt stay healthy on the field. Smith wasnt great, but he also wasnt bad. As for Bowles, if things arent working, sometimes it's good to pull the trigger sooner rather then later. Is it going to be worse for Darnold having to have another OC who may be better, or stick with one that isnt working? Possible improvements to their coaching staff, and more money to spend in FA in a more desirable market. Good thing the Bill's have a couple extra picks this offseason......
Doc Brown Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, BillyWhiteShows said: I don’t think this is a mistake. If anything, it’s a good move for the Jets. Bowles is a good DC, though I don’t think he’s very good as HC Ruined? Seems to me like both those QB’s had pretty decent careers Yeah. Neither were ruined but I'd consider Bradford a disappointment as the first pick in the draft. Alex Smith has had an okay career after a slow start before having the fortune of playing for Harbaugh and then Reid. Never made a Superbowl though and was eventually replaced by two younger QB's (Kaepernick, Mahomes).
LABILLBACKER Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: I will not miss looking at that *****-eating grin twice a year Right, he'd be losing and you still saw him on the sidelines with that creepy grin. He's lucky he lasted as long as he did....
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's probably true. In which case, why keep him going into this season? Clear the decks and bring in someone you'll give some time to, let Darnold develop with the same OC and system for a few years. Getting a better coach beats the crap out of stability. Case in point, Baker Mayfield doing a hell of lot better with a new staff than the original staff, and that was a midseason change.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BillyWhiteShows said: Ruined? Seems to me like both those QB’s had pretty decent careers Eventually. Smith took five years (4 seasons) to break 60% completions or throw more TD than INT. Not what one wants from the #1 overall pick. Bradford played decently his first year under OC Shurmur, then tots regressed with McDaniels and Schottenheimer, dropping below 60% completions for 2 years. His 2nd season he had 6, count em, TDs in 10 games. Again, not what one needs from the #1 overall pick 16 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Getting a better coach beats the crap out of stability. Case in point, Baker Mayfield doing a hell of lot better with a new staff than the original staff, and that was a midseason change. I cant disagree, but why not pull the trigger last offseason?
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Doc Brown said: Yeah. Neither were ruined but I'd consider Bradford a disappointment as the first pick in the draft. Alex Smith has had an okay career after a slow start before having the fortune of playing for Harbaugh and then Reid. Never made a Superbowl though and was eventually replaced by two younger QB's (Kaepernick, Mahomes). Fair enough, I just wouldn’t say either of them were “ruined” by any means. I’m sure there are better examples of QB’s who have achieved less
aceman_16 Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: LOL....got in now! You sure it is not "it" ?
formerlyofCtown Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 5 hours ago, CommonCents said: It’s a team from the same division as the Bills. It’s certainly worth a discussion. Much more important than any mock drafts and player over player decisions when it’s still December. I’m willing to bet that anyone that understands good teams from bad ones is paying attention to this. My guess is the Jets go for an offensive minded coach, Mike McCarthy back in green? I think Bowles was pretty good until the team quit on him. The OC looked the part, I wonder what happens with him. If the team quits on him then hes not a very good coach.
formerlyofCtown Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 3 hours ago, KD in CA said: I agree the Jets usually play hard, but too many games like the recent one against GB where they blow a winnable game. Yes they play really hard especially when cheapshotting the opponents kicker.
apuszczalowski Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Getting a better coach beats the crap out of stability. Case in point, Baker Mayfield doing a hell of lot better with a new staff than the original staff, and that was a midseason change. Although the only difference for Mayfield was Jackson being gone and Greg being the HC. The rest of the guys remained the same IIRC. They dumped Jackson and re-arranged from 'deck chairs' Offseason coaching changes usually involve the entire staff being overhauled and changed.
GunnerBill Posted December 30, 2018 Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said: Although the only difference for Mayfield was Jackson being gone and Greg being the HC. The rest of the guys remained the same IIRC. They dumped Jackson and re-arranged from 'deck chairs' Offseason coaching changes usually involve the entire staff being overhauled and changed. It was Jackson and Haley who went. So there were changes on the offenseive coaching side. Those were the two building the game plans prior to their firing.
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