Laughing Coffin Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 Jonah Williams is likely projected to OG and he's no Quenton Nelson type guard prospect. He won't go in the top 10 to a team that's projecting him at Guard (most teams out of the combine at least) 1
Best Williams Available Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 On 12/29/2018 at 10:09 AM, Peace Frog said: We could use another Williams. Just saying. I concur!!!
BillsFan17 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 Oliver has the higher ceiling, and could be argued the slightly higher value/need for a top ten pick.
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 15 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said: Oh so you want a patch work Oline made to work by a master OL Guru, the ultimate game manager and the GOAT coach. And a first round picks on the offensive line in 2018 (Wynn), a 3rd in '17, a 3rd in '16, a 1st in '11 (Solder), a 2nd in '09 (Vollmer) ... Mankins was a first. Those are only the guys from the top three rounds, not all their OL picks. They value it in the draft. During the same period, the Bills have gone OL in the 2nd (Dawkins), the 3rd (Miller), the 2nd (Kouandjio), a 2nd (Glenn), a 1st (Wood), a 2nd (Levitre, who's still playing). The Pats used three 1sts, the Bills only one, who was an excellent center for years for us and would've still been here if not for the neck thing that caused his retirement. The Bills have used more 2nds, and gotten some good players out of it, Dawkins and Glenn in particular, but haven't devoted a lot of 1sts to it. The Pats have. Yeah, they've got an excellent OL coach. Maybe we do too. With the personnel we had there last year, I'd say they over-achieved.
Turk71 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 Jonas Williams is the wrong pick I think, and I know this by watching him explain why he doesn't care if you think he's the wrong pick. He comes off as more defensive and insulted than confident in what he can do imo. I think all of the concerns about him are valid. He has short arms and lacks fundamental strength. He could be overpowered at the next level. He was fortunate to be surrounded by top level talent on the Alabama line. Not what I would consider a lock.
formerlyofCtown Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thurman#1 said: And a first round picks on the offensive line in 2018 (Wynn), a 3rd in '17, a 3rd in '16, a 1st in '11 (Solder), a 2nd in '09 (Vollmer) ... Mankins was a first. Those are only the guys from the top three rounds, not all their OL picks. They value it in the draft. During the same period, the Bills have gone OL in the 2nd (Dawkins), the 3rd (Miller), the 2nd (Kouandjio), a 2nd (Glenn), a 1st (Wood), a 2nd (Levitre, who's still playing). The Pats used three 1sts, the Bills only one, who was an excellent center for years for us and would've still been here if not for the neck thing that caused his retirement. The Bills have used more 2nds, and gotten some good players out of it, Dawkins and Glenn in particular, but haven't devoted a lot of 1sts to it. The Pats have. Yeah, they've got an excellent OL coach. Maybe we do too. With the personnel we had there last year, I'd say they over-achieved. Yet two years ago we had the better Oline and the year before that and the year before that. The difference with those lines wasnt just the players it was the coach. I think our player developement is much better now. I also said Id be fine with either. I think we are in the best Position to take BPA that we have been in for a while. We can take an upgrade where we want. Edited March 18, 2019 by formerlyofCtown
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 On 12/29/2018 at 10:53 AM, YoloinOhio said: I think the term “generational talent” is overused. See: Eichel, Jack.
SoCal Deek Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 I’m going with Oliver. They’ve spent the free agency gobbling up Offensive Linemen. I can’t see them doing the same with their first round pick. The D Line needs help as well.
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