Just Joshin' Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Why can we not develop players and keep them as depth? I do not understand the thought process of many here. He is not a complete TE now. He could be with improved blocking. I am willing to give him a chance with additional time. Thomas has not developed - time to move on.
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 He can be "ok" as a #2 or 3 guy if he can stop the fumbles. Id rather see the Bills sign a Jesse James, draft a guy and then have Croom for depth.
chef4131 Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 I don't think he will be a good TE Sincerely, Reuben Gant
John from Riverside Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 I would like him to be on the team as the 2nd TE.....but def not number 1. He is not a great blocker.......he is more of a oversized wide receiver
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Needs more development, good work ethic, and could picture him as the second tightend if we drafted Mitchell Wilcox.
ExWNYer Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 I didn't vote due to no option for 'Depends on whether he's still shagging the owners' daughter'... 2
Aussie Joe Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 I wouldn’t object to them drafting a TE as early as Day 2 if there is someone they really like.. Sign another one in FA... Croom needs more development.. a lot more at this stage.. 1
billsfan89 Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Watkins90 said: How is having a guy with his kind of work ethic on this team bad? He is only a second-year player, he can continue to improve. I don't think the guy can be an every-down TE, but he is probably good depth at a cheap price. He is a backup with some potential. I wouldn't roll into a season with him as the starter but if he is your backup TE you have decent depth. Will he ever be starting caliber? I don't honestly know but I think he could be if he takes positive steps in development. I would more or less project his ceiling as a low end starter or a high end backup.
tbarg12 Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, YsoSERIOUS? said: I guess it helps Croom that he's with The Pegula's Daughter. - Croom might be owning the team in the future - Sad but True The Triple H of the Buffalo Bills? lol 1 1
Beast Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 He will be a good 2nd TE but the guy can’t block to save his life.
whatdrought Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 Seems unwise to go into the season with that as the plan. I would be okay with bringing in Jessie James and having Croom behind him. 1
CincyBillsFan Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 For sure we need to upgrade TE but I do like what I'm hearing about Croom's work ethic. And he has made some nice catches. In the fullness of time that fumble against NE at the 5 yard line will fade away. After all he was trying to get extra yardage and it's not like he has a lot of experience running with the ball in the open field. If Croom can be a contributing factor next season it means we only need one more TE from FA and that frees up money to look at other needs - of which there are plenty. So I'm rooting for this guy to make the leap to the next level in the off season. 1
The Now Moment Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 6 hours ago, No Place To Hyde said: He can be "ok" as a #2 or 3 guy if he can stop the fumbles. Id rather see the Bills sign a Jesse James, draft a guy and then have Croom for depth. The guy "can" be a number 2 or he could be much better next year and become a starting caliber tight end. They will bring in more competition I'm sure but when you see a player continue to develop in the time they are here, you have to give them the chance to compete for the job. Certainly worth seeing what he can do next year.
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Buffalo30 said: The guy "can" be a number 2 or he could be much better next year and become a starting caliber tight end. They will bring in more competition I'm sure but when you see a player continue to develop in the time they are here, you have to give them the chance to compete for the job. Certainly worth seeing what he can do next year. Worth seeing? Of course. Counting on it and not doing something to upgrade the position? Absolutely not. No, you don't "have" to give anoyone a chance to compete. You "have" to upgrade and if Croom can step up his game, great. If not the cupboard isn't bare.
The Now Moment Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said: Worth seeing? Of course. Counting on it and not doing something to upgrade the position? Absolutely not. No, you don't "have" to give anoyone a chance to compete. You "have" to upgrade and if Croom can step up his game, great. If not the cupboard isn't bare. I said they will likely bring in more competition...my point was don't label a player a backup too early. And you should give someone a chance to compete who has shown continuous improvement.
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Buffalo30 said: I said they will likely bring in more competition...my point was don't label a player a backup too early. And you should give someone a chance to compete who has shown continuous improvement. Yea, read what you said about compitition. And I disagree. I don't want someone on Crooms level brought in so he can have a chance. I want someone brought in that is better than what we have. I have no issue having him compete for a roster spot. Hope he makes it.
Buddo Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 Me, I'd get rid of the lot of our so-called TEs. Clay is done, and the rest have had their chances. Thomas has been around for years, and still isn't any good. Croom has had two years, and although he's flashed ability, he's also nowhere near being starter quality. As his blocking is rubbish, he's not really even a useful backup at this point. Even with prior staffs, we seem to keep trying to develop TEs, for years, and none of them have amounted to anything. We need to go to FA for a proven vet, and draft someone who actually knows how to play the position in the first place.
dlonce Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 He cannot block, a TE that cannot block isn’t a TE. Crooms isn’t even back up quality. He’s Logan Thomas. He runs terrible routes as well and his hands are suspect. This teams management is fascinated with marginal projects who take up a spot on special teams. Our special teams are terrible because of the lack of talent. They truly need to cut these players like Crooms and get some real talent in here.
GunnerBill Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 No. Next question. He is the one of our three TEs I would be least annoyed to see back, but no way as a starter and my actual preference is to cut ties with all three and completely start over. Still say that the guy we cut and will play against on Sunday would have outperformed all 3 guys on this roster this year. No, Nick O'Leary is not a superstar. He is not even starting calibre himself. But we have persisted with a bloke with no knees, a practice squad level talent and a failed ex QB who has no business being on any NFL roster. 2
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 The heads up play he made for a touchdown after Zay Jones fumbled shows he’s almost there. Adding on another season with his work ethic and he’ll be a top tier #2 TE in sets. As for blocking the centers missing his assignments in point outs.
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