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18 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Year in and year out.

 

McD is no better than the HCs we've had in years past. Hell, even Rex gave the Patriots a better game than McD has in his brief tenure as HC here.

 

McD was brutal today- it is time for him to accept some responsibility - the best he can ever say is we have to make plays. How about you need to prepare your team and adjust in game!

Posted
22 minutes ago, PearlHowardman said:

 

If you're looking for improvement in Josh Allen's accuracy you had better move onto the next QB in the draft.

 

:mellow:

 

The constant emoji closing in every single post kind of makes you come across like a lonely old cat lady that still plays with dolls. ***** is weird.

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Maybe at least part of the reason for all the above is that we were beaten before we ran into the field. This tends to happen when one team has dominated another for so long.

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Posted
Just now, ScottLaw said:

He essentially just said "credit them" in his post game.

 

It will be a big year for him next year. Need to be legitimately competing for a playoff spot come late next season.

 

Credit them is such a cop out. He got outcoached and out schemed. Today was his worst coaching performance. Your right, next year is it- he better unscrew things or hes done. Honestly, I have no faith right now.

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McDermott again left a lot to be desired.  Not sure what Daboll is doing either  Honestly I'd have let Allen throw on basically every down  Pats went big upfront and put tons of bodies right around the line of scrimmage  Waste of time running into that  Some of the routes on third downs were just plain stupid  You need less than 5 how about a rub route , a natural pick or stack your wrs?  No we throw an a crossfield out to a wr who gets zero seperation  Why even had those routes, they are low %  Just because Allen has a canon doesn't mean you need to design the lowest % passes humanely possible

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Great post, Virg.  Really funny.   Especially the last line.  

 

All depends on your attitude.  I watched knowing the season was over and that the Patriots almost certainly were going to win.  I wasn't upset at all, because I had no expectations.  

 

Like you, I'm disappointed in McDermott.  Like it or not, until Belichick retires, his job is to think on Belichick's level and to prepare your team to play at the level Belichick's team plays.  He didn't do that today, as you say.  He wasn't close.   He's played Belichick four times, and he still looks like a rookie.   Except, Brady DID have a tough time throwing today.  Gotta give McDermott and Frazier that. 

 

And, I'm telling you, I was fine with Allen.  Fine.  Week after week, he shows so many things that say he's the real deal.  This was his first time against Belichick.  Next time he'll be better.  Every game is an opportunity for him to learn more.   Next season, with a better line, better receivers and a better understanding of all aspects of the game, he's going to light it up.   Just wait. 

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I have no problem with McCoy per se.  It does however amaze me how useless he is in this offense.  His running style seems to require big holes and no penetration.  He's also much more uselss in the passing game than I thought he would be.  I do think Allen has trouble recognize which plays to swing it to the back early on but I still am amazed that McCoy is basically useless.  Again I'm not saying McCoy is doing anything differently he just doesn't seem to fit this offense.

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I'm with you word for word. It was disgusting and depressing to watch. Waiting 2 hours to spill your guts is fine. Not a Bills fan in the world could say they were not depressed watching the Pats spank us again. It's truly disturbing year after year. I was hopeful we were going to make some strides today and possibly knock NE down to a 3rd seed for good. Instead the resurrection of Foles put NE in the drivers seat for a bye and home field divisional game.  I hate it. I abso*****inglutely hate it. 

Posted
54 minutes ago, Virgil said:

Yesterday, I was thinking about finally committing to buying an Allen jersey.  The curse of players I own jersey's of (they aren't on the team within 2 years of me buying one) seemed like something of the past as I felt optimistic about today's game.  We were improving on offense.  Our defense did well last game.  Brady seems to be finally facing father time or is playing hurt.  Either way, it looked like today would be a good game.  Oh BBFS, you clever dog.  If you're looking for a positive spin on today's game, please move on to the next thread now.

 

1 - Linebackers - The biggest fear I had going into today's game was how the loss of Milano would affect the game.  Fortunately, the complete crap show all the linebackers put on today offset that quickly.  Don't get me wrong, Thompson ***** the bed in spectacular fashion.  I can't remember a time where I saw so many players run into blocks.  It was almost like they were running scripted plays on how not to attack the hole.  We were gashed to both sides of the line where the edge rushers were completely sealed off.  And on the plays they got to the ball carrier, they couldn't tackle to save their lives.  Yes, it was that bad. 

 

2 - Defensive Line - These guys get the brunt of my anger today.  They aren't rookies and they are very well paid.  This was the focus of the offseason and they have no excuse for the pathetic performance today.  If I told you that Brady was hurt/aging and couldn't pass the ball well, you all would piss yourself with excitement.  But what do we do?  We let them run all over us.  They blew us up down the middle, pushed through holes, and overall embarrassed us.  Murphy and Lawson were useless on the outside.  When they did blitz, they were able to get pressure sometimes, but that was their only positive contribution.

 

3 - Wide Receivers - Was anyone else not surprised when Croom fumbled the ball?  Between drops, lack of ball awareness, the WR's didn't do Allen any favors today and reminded us why we need a true, big bodied #1 guy.  These guys alone probably left at least 10-14 points on the board today in a game where everyone decided to equally lay an egg.

 

4 - NOT A ***** THING'S been working for us. Like this goddamn suit doesn't work for me... and this stinking tie... and this goddamned shirt. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR F***ING HEADS OFF, AND YOU ***** DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray

 

5 - Allen - Yup, he sucked too today.  I was optimistic for him after the first drive, had his WR's not let him down so badly.  On the next drive though, he was crap.  There was pressure and this time he wasn't as elusive as before, but he was off the mark a lot more than he was on the mark today.  The Pats dared him to beat him with his arm by loading the box and pressing his WR's a lot, and Allen could come to task.  Some of that was on his WR's not getting separation and some is on Daboll for giving him better quick checks, but today was not great for him.  Unlike our defensive however, he's still learning and was hurt by his surrounding cast a bit.  Doesn't excuse the accuracy and INT's he threw though.  That was on him.

 

6 - Special Teams - I can't.  I just can't.   Crossman needs to be left in New England.  Today was a joke.  I can't even write about why without throwing up.

 

7 - Frazier - You almost have to applaud the timing of articles this week talking about Frazier getting consideration for Head Coaching opportunities this week.  Again, in a week where Brady isn't Brady, you give up how many rushing yards and to who?  C'mon man.  You got absolutely schooled today and it was a joke.  If I told you Brady's stat line today, you'd assume we won or it was close.  To squander this opportunity is pathetic.

 

8 - Daboll - Yup, you're in here too.  You actually have some speed in Foster and McKenzie and you can't have then run underneath routes at all?  You threw deep to Foster in the sun, but then didn't later as the game went on?  The Pats stacked the box and had NO SAFETIES back on quite a few plays and we are tossing slant-out routes?  Are you kidding me?  I was really hoping to see some adjustments after the Pats did it a few times, but nope.  You've done well recently Daboll, but today...not so much.

 

9 - McDermott - How does it feel to have Belicheat steal your lunch money and put you in a locker.  You got outcoached all day today.  Your players didn't help out from time to time, but you were still within a score after the first quarter, saw their entire game plan, and still got taken it to you.  I'm sorry, but this game is as much on you as anyone.  You were straight up out prepared, out executed, and did nothing about it in the game.  This was easily your worst coaching job of the season and you had to do it against the Pats?!  Thanks buddy.

 

10 - Pats Fans - Anyone else notice that the Pats fans all looked like Ivy League school fans?  I'm talking suits, families that JC Penny would put on a catalog?  I don't know why it bothered me so much, but the fans at the game looked like they could have easily been watching a croquet match.  I can't wait until the empire falls and the stadium is empty.  These are the weakest fans in the NFL and don't deserve their success.

 

 

 

By the way, I waited a solid two hours to write this so I could calm down.  How'd I do?  :angry:

This whole post put a ***** smile on my face. F the Pats, their fans, and our whole team. Merry Christmas to my fellow loser Bills fans! 

Posted
24 minutes ago, hemma said:

I watched and wondered why our Offensive Line can’t block like that. 

Not even for one series.  Just never.

 

Why is that?

I just wonder if Daboll wanted to can Castillo right when he got here and McD made him give it just one year. He’s our OC and hasn’t really been given any say in his assistants. 

 

As for Frasier, I remember when he got the D playcalling taken away from him and we played lights out for a few games. I bet he got them back at some point. 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

3 plays that exemplify todays game.

 

1) Foster losing the ball in the sun while having 2 or 3 yards on his defender and a very well thrown ball.

2) Couple of plays later an excellent coverage beating play with double crossing routes and Allen hits McKenzie right in the hands.  He drops it.

3) Next would be the Croom fumble.

 

We really could have been in or won this game very easily.  NE has been letting very average teams hang around and even beat them and today we had our chance and blew it.  Hell NE was even taking drive killing penalties on offense just to help us out but we had no intention of stepping up today.

 

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Posted
32 minutes ago, hemma said:

I watched and wondered why our Offensive Line can’t block like that. 

Not even for one series.  Just never.

 

Why is that?

 

Well, OUR offensive line is terrible, and their coach ain’t no great shakes either. 

38 minutes ago, Maine-iac said:

3 plays that exemplify todays game.

 

1) Foster losing the ball in the sun while having 2 or 3 yards on his defender and a very well thrown ball.

2) Couple of plays later an excellent coverage beating play with double crossing routes and Allen hits McKenzie right in the hands.  He drops it.

3) Next would be the Croom fumble.

 

We really could have been in or won this game very easily.  NE has been letting very average teams hang around and even beat them and today we had our chance and blew it.  Hell NE was even taking drive killing penalties on offense just to help us out but we had no intention of stepping up today.

 

It takes time for teams to learn to win. I think we are headed in that direction. 

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

Yesterday, I was thinking about finally committing to buying an Allen jersey.  The curse of players I own jersey's of (they aren't on the team within 2 years of me buying one) seemed like something of the past as I felt optimistic about today's game.  We were improving on offense.  Our defense did well last game.  Brady seems to be finally facing father time or is playing hurt.  Either way, it looked like today would be a good game.  Oh BBFS, you clever dog.  If you're looking for a positive spin on today's game, please move on to the next thread now.

 

1 - Linebackers - The biggest fear I had going into today's game was how the loss of Milano would affect the game.  Fortunately, the complete crap show all the linebackers put on today offset that quickly.  Don't get me wrong, Thompson ***** the bed in spectacular fashion.  I can't remember a time where I saw so many players run into blocks.  It was almost like they were running scripted plays on how not to attack the hole.  We were gashed to both sides of the line where the edge rushers were completely sealed off.  And on the plays they got to the ball carrier, they couldn't tackle to save their lives.  Yes, it was that bad. 

 

2 - Defensive Line - These guys get the brunt of my anger today.  They aren't rookies and they are very well paid.  This was the focus of the offseason and they have no excuse for the pathetic performance today.  If I told you that Brady was hurt/aging and couldn't pass the ball well, you all would piss yourself with excitement.  But what do we do?  We let them run all over us.  They blew us up down the middle, pushed through holes, and overall embarrassed us.  Murphy and Lawson were useless on the outside.  When they did blitz, they were able to get pressure sometimes, but that was their only positive contribution.

 

3 - Wide Receivers - Was anyone else not surprised when Croom fumbled the ball?  Between drops, lack of ball awareness, the WR's didn't do Allen any favors today and reminded us why we need a true, big bodied #1 guy.  These guys alone probably left at least 10-14 points on the board today in a game where everyone decided to equally lay an egg.

 

4 - NOT A ***** THING'S been working for us. Like this goddamn suit doesn't work for me... and this stinking tie... and this goddamned shirt. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR F***ING HEADS OFF, AND YOU ***** DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray

 

5 - Allen - Yup, he sucked too today.  I was optimistic for him after the first drive, had his WR's not let him down so badly.  On the next drive though, he was crap.  There was pressure and this time he wasn't as elusive as before, but he was off the mark a lot more than he was on the mark today.  The Pats dared him to beat him with his arm by loading the box and pressing his WR's a lot, and Allen could come to task.  Some of that was on his WR's not getting separation and some is on Daboll for giving him better quick checks, but today was not great for him.  Unlike our defensive however, he's still learning and was hurt by his surrounding cast a bit.  Doesn't excuse the accuracy and INT's he threw though.  That was on him.

 

6 - Special Teams - I can't.  I just can't.   Crossman needs to be left in New England.  Today was a joke.  I can't even write about why without throwing up.

 

7 - Frazier - You almost have to applaud the timing of articles this week talking about Frazier getting consideration for Head Coaching opportunities this week.  Again, in a week where Brady isn't Brady, you give up how many rushing yards and to who?  C'mon man.  You got absolutely schooled today and it was a joke.  If I told you Brady's stat line today, you'd assume we won or it was close.  To squander this opportunity is pathetic.

 

8 - Daboll - Yup, you're in here too.  You actually have some speed in Foster and McKenzie and you can't have then run underneath routes at all?  You threw deep to Foster in the sun, but then didn't later as the game went on?  The Pats stacked the box and had NO SAFETIES back on quite a few plays and we are tossing slant-out routes?  Are you kidding me?  I was really hoping to see some adjustments after the Pats did it a few times, but nope.  You've done well recently Daboll, but today...not so much.

 

9 - McDermott - How does it feel to have Belicheat steal your lunch money and put you in a locker.  You got outcoached all day today.  Your players didn't help out from time to time, but you were still within a score after the first quarter, saw their entire game plan, and still got taken it to you.  I'm sorry, but this game is as much on you as anyone.  You were straight up out prepared, out executed, and did nothing about it in the game.  This was easily your worst coaching job of the season and you had to do it against the Pats?!  Thanks buddy.

 

10 - Pats Fans - Anyone else notice that the Pats fans all looked like Ivy League school fans?  I'm talking suits, families that JC Penny would put on a catalog?  I don't know why it bothered me so much, but the fans at the game looked like they could have easily been watching a croquet match.  I can't wait until the empire falls and the stadium is empty.  These are the weakest fans in the NFL and don't deserve their success.

 

 

 

By the way, I waited a solid two hours to write this so I could calm down.  How'd I do?  :angry:

I was in Queens and my DVR did not record and i was pissed.... until i read this. Thank you for making me glad i have no way of watching!?

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

 

4 - NOT A ***** THING'S been working for us. Like this goddamn suit doesn't work for me... and this stinking tie... and this goddamned shirt. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR ME. YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY WINNING HARD-NOSED FOOTBALL? YOU PLAY FOOTBALL LIKE ED GENERRO PLAYED FOOTBALL. A guy who gave his life for this football team. He was a 140-pound halfback, and HE PLAYED LIKE A GODDAMN WILDMAN! NO! LIKE A GODDAMN RAMPAGING BEAST! And that's the way you got to do it! YOU GO OUT THERE! YOU TEAR THEIR F***ING HEADS OFF, AND YOU ***** DOWN THEIR NECKS! Let us pray

 

 

 

By the way, I waited a solid two hours to write this so I could calm down.  How'd I do?  :angry:

 

Great rant that was deserved.

The only thing missing was at the end.

Needed a "...where's the Tylenol?",  like Clark W. Griswold.

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7 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

Well, OUR offensive line is terrible, and their coach ain’t no great shakes either. 

 

It takes time for teams to learn to win. I think we are headed in that direction. 

I like our QB.  I like our OC.  There's enough there to like.  I like our defensive coaching staff overall.  I think some offensive upgrades on the line and pass catchers would help but learning how to win has eluded us for many many years.  When the penalties stop.  The dropped balls stop.  The bad clock management stops.  I'll feel a little more comfortable about the idea of learning how to win.  Hopefully next year is the start.

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Agree mostly with your write up. Overall, it’s sad how this team has really NO talent on offense. You literally could make the case they need 10 new starters on offense besides Allen. Everyone else one could debate would be good depth but not bonafide starting NFL material. We had ONE game this season where a RB has ran the ball effectively. ONE! Ridiculous that this team can only get 2 yards per run the majority of the time. 

 

Lack of adjustments against the Pats was extremely disappointing! They had close to 100 yards on the WR motion handoff, they left the middle wide open for the Bills to throw against. Daboll playing calling was atrocious today. 

 

IMO, Bills need to move on from McCoy, KW and Clay. Trent Murphy is a depth player at this point. Hopefully Crossman and Castillo are replaced. 

Edmunds and Harrison were MIA today.

 

We have to hope the Bills can add 3 OL starters, a playmaking WR, TE and RB thru FA and the draft. That’s a lot!

 

Btw, at this point a win against MIA does nothing for them. In fact, I’d contemplate playing Barkley in the second half. Might as well treat it as a preseason game. 

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1 minute ago, Virgil said:

Has no one seen Unnecessary Roughness?

certainly not on behalf of the Bills today. no sir.

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