H2o Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 It's to the point now that I actually feel sympathy for the guy. It's obvious he has tried to change things, go through therapy, rehab stints, and whatever else. He just can't seem to keep it together. I hope he can for his life outside of football if nothing else. 3
MrEpsYtown Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I apologize for my previous posts, but will not delete them, hope they aren't too harsh, but this is obviously something I am hypersensitive about. I worked in the field for close to 16 years and if you truly understood addiction, it is way more than simply making a choice. I am sorry if I offended, but I simply don't believe this guy and I think a lot of people have a hard time believing him. I didn't mean to offend, I was simply stating that a lot of people don't recognize Gordon's issues as a mental health issue. Are those people wrong? Yes. Is he lying? In my opinion, probably. Should he be given the benefit of the doubt? At this point, I say no. That's kind of where I stand on Gordon's situation, so I apologize if I hit a nerve. I just think that it is situations like his that cause people to lack sensitivity for mental health issues. 2
TuelTime Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: He smokes pot and is using mental health as an excuse. One of the reasons people struggle recognizing mental health as a legit issue is the guys like this who will use it as a crutch. Or he has mental health issues and uses marijuana to medicate. It is a shame that one of the best WRs in the game isn't able to smoke a little weed and play football but it is okay to pump them full of opiates so they can get back in the game. These guys are getting CTE from receiving repeated blows to the head. But yeah, lets worry about them puffing a little devil's lettuce. The rampant ignorance in this country is sickening. Edited December 20, 2018 by TuelTime 4 2
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Come on now ... You are supposed to quit AT HALFTIME
Dablitzkrieg Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I am sorry if I offended, but I simply don't believe this guy and I think a lot of people have a hard time believing him. I didn't mean to offend, I was simply stating that a lot of people don't recognize Gordon's issues as a mental health issue. Are those people wrong? Yes. Is he lying? In my opinion, probably. Should he be given the benefit of the doubt? At this point, I say no. That's kind of where I stand on Gordon's situation, so I apologize if I hit a nerve. I just think that it is situations like his that cause people to lack sensitivity for mental health issues. Apology accepted. My reaction was too harsh. We can agree to disagree. 3
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 FWIW .... I hope he gets the help he needs 2
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Just kick this guy out of the league for life
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I hope the young man quits football for good, and gets right in his personal life. Kinda like Aaron Maybin did. Side note: If we relentlessly blitz this week, I could see us winning. Well said, Seasons. However, do you think this is a team that is going to decide to relentlessly blitz?
row_33 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mark80 said: It is a very good sign when someone can recognize they are having issues and address them before they turn into something big. Realizing you need help / time away or whatever and then seeking that help is something many with mental health issues don't / cannot do. Good for him that he has his priorities right it seems. Personally, I wish him well. And some of you posters are, quite simply, heartless. Edit - well, now that it is being reported he is in line for suspension I guess I can take most of this back. Although I still wish him well and hope he can get his life back on track with proper treatment. that's okay, our opinions are all valid (mostly) hope he gets help to shake off his demons, mostly for the sake of his family and friends he spends the next 40 years around...
PatsFanNH Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 31 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Hahahahha! Dumb Cheatriots! Why the hell did they even think about signing that loser? I hope this is it for him in the NFL. He was worth the risk put up 750 yards 6 TD in 8 games.. I doubt any 5th rounder they drafted do that in 3 years.. that said i was hoping he stay clean till at least the playoffs started.. oh well now Dorsett and Paterson need step up. I think Dorsett can.
whatdrought Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Mark80 said: Yep, posted before it mentioned the suspension. That's what I get for giving people the benefit of the doubt. But still, addiction is no joking matter and neither are mental health issues in general. Thought he made a lot of progress. Guess not, sad. I get ya. His post seemed pretty “apologizing cause I got caught.” To me.
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 On a personal level it sucks to see someone go down this path. On the business/football side of it, the Patriots just lost their top WR from a yards and YPG perspective. I'm not going to lie that makes me smile. Especially since they are always smarter then everyone else. Well that moved just blew up on them! Plus this will probably further hurt Tom from earning $4 million in Bonuses. https://www.foxbusiness.com/features/patriots-qb-tom-brady-could-miss-5m-in-performance-bonuses-this-season
Just Joshin' Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Many people have an addiction issue. I do not recall this reaction with Bryant or other players. Is it because they used the mental health approach in the announcement? The difference between Gordon and a person off the street is the support and resources available. He has more than the vast majority of people who struggle with addiction. Whether fair or not, that impacts the POV.
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Boy, Corner, believe me I know the above is not the point of this thread and I am with those here who hope that this guy gets his life straight, even if it means he never gets back to football. ...and I know I am being petty, but the above bugs me. I Like Rap, but I am annoyed (maybe needlessly) at the "let's pat Belichek on the back for making a good decision even though it didn't work out." The guy gave production that he was very capable of, and then some. BB didn't take a piece of coal and turn it into a diamond. He took a very talented receiver and got reasonable production out of him until his next suspension. No pats really necessary for a receiver needy team like NE. Edited December 20, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 2
NewEra Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 35 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: Josh Gordon is a loser. Period. I didn't say anything about him fighting and addiction problem....you did. What makes him a loser? Because he’s an addict? 1
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, Seasons1992 said: I hope the young man quits football for good, and gets right in his personal life. Kinda like Aaron Maybin did. Side note: If we relentlessly blitz this week, I could see us winning. Aaron Maybin pretty much is what Taylor Mali talked about in what teachers make. People scoff at him and mock him as being a teacher for those who don’t teaching. I don’t my own experience in internships for pre-schools taught me that and it was an eye opening experience.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Sad, I was rooting for the kid, but it's harder when he's on the Patriots. I hope he can come back if he wants and join another team. On the plus side, that's one less weapon Tommy boy will have on Sunday. Look for the resurrection of Hogan against his old mates.
Johnny Hammersticks Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 I’ll wait to hear what he tested positive for before I weigh in on whether or not he “suffers from addiction.” That phrase sees to be thrown around quite liberally now a days. 1 1
Captain_Quint Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Someone else said it before, but why not give the CFL a shot? The talent is still there and he'll make some money doing it. At least then he can focus on football and not have to look over his shoulder for a useless drug test. As far as I know, he doesnt have drug issues beyond weed. 1
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