corta765 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) Watching the Patriots/Steelers game it had the feel of two prizefighters who are on their last legs (finally). Don't get me wrong if I had the pick of the Patriots/Steelers or the rest of the AFC I may take those two, but overall it seems that the shroud of darkness from those two is at last nearing its end which is exciting. Consider this: Since 2001 12 of the 16 NFC teams have appeared in at least one Super Bowl with only the Lions, Vikings, Cowboys, & Redskins not making an appearance. By comparison their AFC brethren have seen just 5 of their 16 teams appear in the Super Bowl. The common theme obviously is Brady, Manning, & Big Ben and their dominance eliminated the field with ease. By the same token the NFC did have some great teams but it saw a greater spread of talent compared to what the AFC had with their big 3 (plus Rivers). McNabb, Eli, Rodgers, Wilson, Warner, Brees, Farve, Newton, and Ryan are all good to great QB's who have had their day in the sun and some still have more days. The AFC by comparison besides being dominated by those 4 just never had the talent at QB to even put up a decent fight for the majority of this time which is why it feels like a really exciting time if your fans of any of the other 14 AFC teams. The AFC looks to have a massive crop of young QB talent led by Mahomes, Luck, & Watson that hopefully are joined by the likes of Baker, Allen, Darnold, & Jackson which should hopefully bring some exciting fresh new blood and storylines finally to the table. I hope 15-16 years from now we can look back and see the AFC have 10-12 teams that got their chance in the Super Bowl and that Buffalo is one of those in the group. Edited December 19, 2018 by corta765 3 1
Stank_Nasty Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Have been saying all year that this was the year to get a guy for the future.... another year or 2 will see brady and ben leave and its gonna bust wiiiiiiddddeee open!
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 i thought the Pats and Steelers played a game at a level way above what the Bills had just finished many levels, actually
corta765 Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, row_33 said: i thought the Pats and Steelers played a game at a level way above what the Bills had just finished many levels, actually Both teams are aging with rosters near the end outside of AB & JuJu. Steelers are lucky Mayfield didn't play week 1 otherwise they'd be chasing Cleveland. NE I never bet against but Brady has went from god to really good mortal QB his end is near.
ProcessYaDigg Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 3 hours ago, corta765 said: Watching the Patriots/Steelers game it had the feel of two prizefighters who are on their last legs (finally). Don't get me wrong if I had the pick of the Patriots/Steelers or the rest of the AFC I may take those two, but overall it seems that the shroud of darkness from those two is at last nearing its end which is exciting. Consider this: Since 2001 12 of the 16 NFC teams have appeared in at least one Super Bowl with only the Lions, Vikings, Cowboys, & Redskins not making an appearance. By comparison their AFC brethren have seen just 5 of their 16 teams appear in the Super Bowl. The common theme obviously is Brady, Manning, & Big Ben and their dominance eliminated the field with ease. By the same token the NFC did have some great teams but it saw a greater spread of talent compared to what the AFC had with their big 3 (plus Rivers). McNabb, Eli, Rodgers, Wilson, Warner, Brees, Farve, Newton, and Ryan are all good to great QB's who have had their day in the sun and some still have more days. The AFC by comparison besides being dominated by those 4 just never had the talent at QB to even put up a decent fight for the majority of this time which is why it feels like a really exciting time if your fans of any of the other 14 AFC teams. The AFC looks to have a massive crop of young QB talent led by Mahomes, Luck, & Watson that hopefully are joined by the likes of Baker, Allen, Darnold, & Jackson which should hopefully bring some exciting fresh new blood and storylines finally to the table. I hope 15-16 years from now we can look back and see the AFC have 10-12 teams that got their chance in the Super Bowl and that Buffalo is one of those in the group. I hope that in the next 15-16 years, we only see one team from the AFC make the super bowl. F all the other teams. #GOBILLS!!!! 1
RiotAct Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 I don’t thik that AFC SB stat is right. Off the top of my head: Patriots Raiders Ravens Colts Broncos Steelers
Chandler#81 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 Great (Hopeful) thread, Corta! Reminiscent of early AFC days; Namath, Dawson, Hadl/Fouts, Greise, Bradshaw, Lamonica/Stabler, Pastorini, Anderson, Unitas/Morrall/Jones. Let’s hope so, anyway..
ColdFront_USAF Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 7 hours ago, RiotAct said: I don’t thik that AFC SB stat is right. Off the top of my head: Patriots Raiders Ravens Colts Broncos Steelers Youre correct. 6 teams have gone since 2001, but only 5 quarterbacks have gone because of Peyton Manning moving from the Colts to the Broncos. So since 2001, the only AFC starting quarterbacks to play in the Super Bowl are Brady, Gannon, Flacco, Manning, and Ben.
ganesh Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 3 hours ago, ColdFront_USAF said: Youre correct. 6 teams have gone since 2001, but only 5 quarterbacks have gone because of Peyton Manning moving from the Colts to the Broncos. So since 2001, the only AFC starting quarterbacks to play in the Super Bowl are Brady, Gannon, Flacco, Manning, and Ben. And in that Gannon and Flacco went to the dance just once. Brady (8), Ben (3), Manning(3) have represent the rest of the years...Astounding !!!!
Pbomb Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 While I agree the decline of Brady and New England is coming i’ll Believe it when I see them lose in one of the first 2 rounds of the playoffs.
row_33 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 13 hours ago, corta765 said: Both teams are aging with rosters near the end outside of AB & JuJu. Steelers are lucky Mayfield didn't play week 1 otherwise they'd be chasing Cleveland. NE I never bet against but Brady has went from god to really good mortal QB his end is near. Again the Steelers and Patsnplayed many levels above the Bills and Lions. all we have is the game played out in reality, hopes and wishes and deeming luck have nothing to do with reality
billsredneck1 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 36 minutes ago, Pbomb said: While I agree the decline of Brady and New England is coming i’ll Believe it when I see them lose in one of the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. i'm predicting that even after big ben , the steelers will carry on a winning tradition with mason rudolph(6'5" 240). looks to me like a rogers behind favre situation.
Doc Brown Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 That AFC quarterback stat is because of Brady and Belichick. Great quarterbacks and competent head coaches usually go to at least three. Roethlisberger, P. Manning, Bradshaw, Montana, Kelly, Aikman, Staubach, Elway, Griese, Warner, Tarkenton all went to at least three. Pry forgot a few, but eight is unreal. We'll never see this again (especially in a hard salary cap era). Can't wait until Brady is gone.
Coach Tuesday Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Perfect time to build up the trenches in Buffalo - build from the inside out, get a center and another good guard to pair with Teller, upgrade at RT, bring in some talent at TE, construct a spearhead to put in front of Allen. Best way to level the playing field on offense is to fortify the line, increases your margin for error in any given game. And on D, need some interior pass rushing talent, make Brady have to move off his spot on his taped-together knee... I want powerhouse trenches football in Buffalo in 2019. 1
Livinginthepast Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 I don't begrudge the Pats some of their success, Great QB and coach deserve success. However its the longevity that pisses me off. 17 seasons of success?!! No other team in any sport have had that kind of domination for that long!
Thriftygamer83 Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Livinginthepast said: I don't begrudge the Pats some of their success, Great QB and coach deserve success. However its the longevity that pisses me off. 17 seasons of success?!! No other team in any sport have had that kind of domination for that long! Montreal Canadiens enjoyed that level of success just saying. Although of course by contrast New England helped itself along with spy-gate, deflate gate, and so many other officials help that “Whitey” Bulger must have sent Farrelly a Christmas card and told him to keep up the good work for what he had done for him.
4merper4mer Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Pbomb said: While I agree the decline of Brady and New England is coming i’ll Believe it when I see them lose in one of the first 2 rounds of the playoffs. Coming January to a TV near you. 1
corta765 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Posted December 20, 2018 14 hours ago, RiotAct said: I don’t thik that AFC SB stat is right. Off the top of my head: Patriots Raiders Ravens Colts Broncos Steelers 01 Pats 02 Raiders 03 Pats 04 Pats 05 Steelers 06 Colts 07 Pats 08 Steelers 09 Colts 10 Steelers 11 Pats 12 Ravens 13 Broncos 14 Pats 15 Broncos 16 Pats 17 Pats You named all of them their is no one else 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Again the Steelers and Patsnplayed many levels above the Bills and Lions. all we have is the game played out in reality, hopes and wishes and deeming luck have nothing to do with reality That's your opinion and currently the Steelers and Pats are below the Chiefs, Chargers, & Texans in W/L.
RiotAct Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, corta765 said: 01 Pats 02 Raiders 03 Pats 04 Pats 05 Steelers 06 Colts 07 Pats 08 Steelers 09 Colts 10 Steelers 11 Pats 12 Ravens 13 Broncos 14 Pats 15 Broncos 16 Pats 17 Pats You named all of them their is no one else yeah I thought for sure I was missing at least one team, I guess not!!!
Livinginthepast Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Thriftygamer83 said: Montreal Canadiens enjoyed that level of success just saying. Although of course by contrast New England helped itself along with spy-gate, deflate gate, and so many other officials help that “Whitey” Bulger must have sent Farrelly a Christmas card and told him to keep up the good work for what he had done for him. That's true but a lot of the Canadiens success came when the NHL was a smaller league. After expansion and esp after the WHA teams joined in 1979, the Canadiens have only won 2 Stanley cups in 40 years. Hell the Canadiens used to enjoy the first dibs exclusive rights to French Canadian players before the other teams in the league had a shot. There really is no other team in any sport that has had the sustained success of the Pats. Its crazy!! 1
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