BillsVet Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 20 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How anyone can try to project this guys at this point is crazy. The only one I can say 100% I feel like is a definite franchise guy at this point is Mayfield, and I won’t be shocked if he did something dumb and get in a bunch of trouble. Right now no one knows much of anything about these 5-6 QBs and the time spent predicting their future is a waste. For example, I find it notable that each guy save Allen may have a new HC next season. Another consideration is these types of analyses don't factor in whatever flaws are in their game. You can be sure these will be exposed during off-season film review and the QBs will need to adapt to defenses who better know their strengths and weaknesses. For a team like Buffalo, there's ample evidence now of what Daboll is trying to do with Allen whereas that wasn't as clear earlier.
Bill from NYC Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 10:03 AM, corta765 said: With two weeks to go in the season we have a pretty good sample for all of the QB's in the big 5 of Mayfield, Darnold, Allen, Rosen, & Jackson. So after year 1 this is where I see each of these QB's pacing/turning into. Mind you things change rapidly so if Mayfield collapses into a black hole of awful play it can happen, this is just off the first season. Baker Mayfield- John Elway/Steve Young hybrid. With all due respect for Allen who is incredibly fun to watch, Mayfield is something else to watch at QB. From the moment he has taken over as the QB the Browns are 6-6 and he his been amazing to see make plays all over. His growth is certainly evident and his mobility strikes me as watching Young or Elway with his eyes always looking downfield to beat you along with a competitive fire that is infectious as all hell. Good for the long suffering fans of Cleveland and I hope he turns into a great like these two (just not at the expense of the Bills SB chances lol). Of any of these QB's becoming an all timer Baker after year 1 would be the easy bet. Sam Darnold- Tony Romo. Like Allen who had to miss time and comeback stronger Darnold has done exactly that. Rival or not Darnold certainly has had his moments and the last few games really has shown some great play. His propensity to make big plays but turn the ball over reminds me of Tony Romo who could do a ton and really had a good feel for the offense. He isn't a fiery leader like Mayfield/Allen but with some more talent around him he could make the Jets a contender for a decade. Josh Allen- Cam Newton + Brett Farve lite. The kid can ball, I was a Rosen guy admittedly but even I am have been impressed with his growth and talent. He has Cam's size and playmaking mixed with Farve's fire, arm, and just general ability to make you go are you kidding me. I don't think Allen will ever be the most accurate QB but he will improve enough to be a mix of these two. Farve is an all time great I don't know if Allen can hit that stratosphere at this point, but I think he will be really good like Newton who is successful and Farve was a QB you had to watch because of his ability to say holy sh*t how did he do that for both good and some bad. Josh Rosen- David Carr/Joey Harrington. The list of QB's who have succeeded after getting beat up the way he has and with such instability at coach/FO is not long. Situation matters big time for a QB and watching Rosen it just feels like a guy being thrown to the wolves and it's up to him to figure it out. What is most worrisome with Rosen is the fact his play has actually declined from the start of the season. He was never said to be the leader the previous three were and his best talents being quick release and accuracy are being wasted in this offense. Outside of a coach like Bruce Arains coming back or some other QB whisperer coming in with a fast west coast style attack I just do not see him making it. Lamar Jackson- Taller Doug Flutie + Steve McNair lite. He certainly is fun to watch and Baltimore is managing his first season perfectly so he can make plays but is not put in a bad situation. Watching him makes me think of what Doug Flutie could've been like if he was taller and I think his ceiling could be close to McNair who was a superb QB who could move but tear you up passing wise. I am not sure Jackson will be as accurate as a McNair but like Allen I think he can do enough where it doesn't really matter and your winning with a good QB. My major question with Jackson is what happens when he spied regularly and asked to throw more then 25 times in a game? Allen was faced with this question and did well against the Lions and against the Dolphins where he basically willed the team solo while throwing for 33 times. I would be very intrigued to see what a coach like Sean McVay or possible future coach like Lincoln Riley would do with a player like Jackson. Nice post but I fully disagree about Mayfield. A hybrid of one of the best passers ever and perhaps the best running qb ever (or at least top 5)? I hardly think so but again, I appreciate the post.
eball Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, BillsVet said: Right now no one knows much of anything about these 5-6 QBs and the time spent predicting their future is a waste. For example, I find it notable that each guy save Allen may have a new HC next season. Another consideration is these types of analyses don't factor in whatever flaws are in their game. You can be sure these will be exposed during off-season film review and the QBs will need to adapt to defenses who better know their strengths and weaknesses. For a team like Buffalo, there's ample evidence now of what Daboll is trying to do with Allen whereas that wasn't as clear earlier. It has been fun watching Allen's progression the past few weeks and seeing how defenses are already having to change the way they prepare. I agree trying to predict these QBs' career doppelgangers is a futile exercise at this point.
Dr. Who Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 10:42 AM, BuffaloHokie13 said: We need our version of Moss (who I doubt will be as good, certainly can't expect that) to help Allen out. Ideally we hit on someone big in the draft! DK Metcalf is a fella I think could fit the Bills.
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