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Interesting nugget on that list.  One of the QBs on our roster is on that list - with 3,700 yards in a season.  Playing for Cleveland...  None other than Derek Anderson.

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2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

following you? since you joined yesterday you've been all over this board, kind of hard to miss any of those 155 posts.

 

get well soon.

 

Thanks, already back to work.

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1 minute ago, WhyteDwarf said:

 

Thanks, already back to work.

do you know the poster peterdude?  you two both have a massive need for attention.  you don't even care if it's positive or not.  

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1 minute ago, teef said:

do you know the poster peterdude?  you two both have a massive need for attention.  you don't even care if it's positive or not.  

 

Oh, another wannabe MOD, click.

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Just now, WhyteDwarf said:

 

Oh, another wannabe MOD, click.

go get that attention my friend!  i always wonder, did your parents hug you enough as a child?  why try so hard?

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2 hours ago, MichaelAbdallah said:

 

One can definitely make a case that Marino was the GOAT. He would have had multiple Super Bowl rings if he had quality RB's playing for him and if the Bills weren't in the same division. 

I'd be interested to see what the 90's Bills would have looked like with Marino under center. 

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1 minute ago, Tenhigh said:

I'd be interested to see what the 90's Bills would have looked like with Marino under center. 

 

Probably would have won some of those SB's.

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6 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Youll notice the only QB on that list that is not from the Everything benefits the passing game era and he isnt toward the bottom.

That is one of the reasons I say Dan Marino is the GOAT and it is possible that an actual goat may have been better than some of the WRs and RBs he had at his disposal.

 

What's even more amazing is that he was drafted by the Dolphins and not the Steelers who watched him throw every week at Pitt and passed on him, I'm still bitter about it.

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3 hours ago, MichaelAbdallah said:

One can definitely make a case that Marino was the GOAT. He would have had multiple Super Bowl rings if he had quality RB's playing for him and if the Bills weren't in the same division.

 

you can't just put a great RB in your imagination and declare multiple SBs  :D

 

he was in the AFC, a total joke for almost all his career

 

they deliberately set up the team so he could pad his stats the whole game, throwing for yards at will in garbagetime, never grinding the gameclock out with a win

 

still one of the best ever

 

 

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8 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I wonder how many times Kelly does

it if he played in this Era.

If you want to see impressive, compare Dan Marino to his peers.  Brees is quit impressive compared to his peers as well.

Yeah, it’s a completely different era now.  What Marino did was like Babe Ruth did in the white major leagues.  He was so superior to his peers.  But when Matt Stafford gets multiple 5,000 yards seasons, maybe it’s not that impressive anymore. 

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10 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Yeah, it’s a completely different era now.  What Marino did was like Babe Ruth did in the white major leagues.  He was so superior to his peers.  But when Matt Stafford gets multiple 5,000 yards seasons, maybe it’s not that impressive anymore. 

 

how was Marino that superior?

 

he was the first to exploit the end of the bump and run and threw to two small WRs out there all game so he could pad his stats

 

but that's not really all that admirable

 

 

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6 hours ago, MichaelAbdallah said:

 

Comparing players to their peers is really the only fair way to do it when you're talking about stat comparisons from differerent eras. Ryan Fitzpatrick, for example, could conceivably pass Jim Kelly in career NFL passing yards when all is said and done. On stats alone, a completely oblivious statistician might think the two were comparable in talent, ignoring the fact that Fitzy played in the flag football era while Jim Kelly played in an era where running the ball was still a viable strategy.

 

Also, the career longevity of NFL QB's these days was simply not possible back then. I'm impressed by how effective Brees and Brady have been into their 40's, but no way they get to where they are now if defenses were allowed to play under the old rules of getting to the QB.

 

One can definitely make a case that Marino was the GOAT. He would have had multiple Super Bowl rings if he had quality RB's playing for him and if the Bills weren't in the same division.

 

How about Joe Ferguson?  At one point he was among the career leaders in a few categories like yards, attempts, completions based mainly on longevity.  He may arguably be the 2nd most accomplished passer in Bills history but he was just an average quarterback.  

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12 hours ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I wonder how many times Kelly does

it if he played in this Era.

If you want to see impressive, compare Dan Marino to his peers.  Brees is quit impressive compared to his peers as well.

 

Dan did have a LOT of INT's though.

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3 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

What's even more amazing is that he was drafted by the Dolphins and not the Steelers who watched him throw every week at Pitt and passed on him, I'm still bitter about it.

And then Pittsburgh grabbed Roethlesburger out from under us.  Maybe we should view them with the same disdain we Have for NE.

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