Misterbluesky Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Jalen Hurts to Oklahoma I'll bet he went with the Submariner this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Jalen Hurts to Oklahoma I predict he’ll be a Heisman finalist and have the Sooners back in the playoffs next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfanlc Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Willyville Guy said: I predict he’ll be a Heisman finalist and have the Sooners back in the playoffs next year. Best place for him if he is wanting to continue to develop his passing. I'll be watching ok and pulling for Jalen next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 15 hours ago, Willyville Guy said: I predict he’ll be a Heisman finalist and have the Sooners back in the playoffs next year. It wouldn't surprise me. Does Oklahoma play even 1 team with a decent defense? I wish him well but his transfer was expected and might even help the team in an ideal setting. They have 2 incoming freshmen at the qb position, both of whom have big time credentials. It would be great to see them get some playing time in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bandito said: Yea, they put up 34 pts on that vaunted Alabama defense in the CFP. Texas's D isn't too bad either They did.....with a different quarterback. Do you like Hurts as much as Murray? And this Alabama defense, while very talented, lost a huge number of very good to excellent players to the NFL. It will happen again as it does almost every season but I think that the 2019 defense has the potential to be better than the one in 2018 by a considerable margin. What you saw this month was not an ordinary defense by Alabama standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bandito said: Yea, they put up 34 pts on that vaunted Alabama defense in the CFP. Texas's D isn't too bad either TCU and Iowa State are both in the top 35 defenses from ‘18. No other Big 12 teams in the top 50. Their out of conference schedule for 2019 is also outside of that. Hurts is a good college QB but not considered a great passer. I think it will be interesting to see him in a different offense to see if that is still the case or if he starts throwing it around more. It is the #1 offense in the country that he’s walking into. And we see what Lincoln Riley did with the last 2 QB transfers. Edited January 17, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: It wouldn't surprise me. Does Oklahoma play even 1 team with a decent defense? I wish him well but his transfer was expected and might even help the team in an ideal setting. They have 2 incoming freshmen at the qb position, both of whom have big time credentials. It would be great to see them get some playing time in 2019. I'm not sure about this year, but I looked into this when I was scouting QBs for the Bills last year. The defenses that Oklahoma faced the last year with Baker Mayfield, were on average, 63rd in the country. The only QB prospect that faced tougher defenses on average was Lamar Jackson at 58th. Baker faced 6 top 30 defenses that year while the next closest QB faced 4 (Lamar and Mason Rudolph, who was also a Big 12 QB). Edit: Looking at this past season's schedule, they once again faced, on average, the 63rd best defense, though only two top 30 defenses (Alabama & Army). So in terms of facing elite defenses, it's hard to say how many Jalen Hurts might face, but in all likelihood, he'll face better defenses on average than most other QBs. Edited January 17, 2019 by DCOrange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I'm not sure about this year, but I looked into this when I was scouting QBs for the Bills last year. The defenses that Oklahoma faced the last year with Baker Mayfield, were on average, 63rd in the country. The only QB prospect that faced tougher defenses on average was Lamar Jackson at 58th. Baker faced 6 top 30 defenses that year while the next closest QB faced 4 (Lamar and Mason Rudolph, who was also a Big 12 QB). Edit: Looking at this past season's schedule, they once again faced, on average, the 63rd best defense, though only two top 30 defenses (Alabama & Army). So in terms of facing elite defenses, it's hard to say how many Jalen Hurts might face, but in all likelihood, he'll face better defenses on average than most other QBs. Thanks, that was great research! Do you happen to know how the defenses that Clemson and Alabama faced were ranked? These things confuse me too. Army, top 30? I suppose that a lot of factors contribute to this such as TOP but I can't say I know for sure. Do you consider these ratings to be accurate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Thanks, that was great research! Do you happen to know how the defenses that Clemson and Alabama faced were ranked? These things confuse me too. Army, top 30? I suppose that a lot of factors contribute to this such as TOP but I can't say I know for sure. Do you consider these ratings to be accurate? In the case of Army, I would bet it's hugely influenced by TOP. With the NFL, I'd generally look at yards/points per possession as a gauge of how good a defense is, or also something like DVOA. Unfortunately I don't know if any of those are available to the public for college teams, so all I can go on is points allowed per game. Regarding Clemson/Alabama: Clemson: 67th (3 top 30 defenses and 3 outside the top 100) Alabama: 65th (5 top 30 defenses and 6 outside the top 100) Oklahoma: 63rd (2 top 30 defenses and 1 outside the top 100) People think of the Big 12 and think of the outrageously high scoring games, but on the whole, they don't give up as many points per game as you'd expect. None of the Big 12 teams that Oklahoma played ranked outside the top 100. The average ranking of the Big 12 teams they faced was 66th. The average ranking of SEC teams Alabama faced and ACC teams Clemson faced is 50th and 79th respectively. Bama and Clemson each faced two conference teams that were ranked outside the top 100. If more data were available, I probably wouldn't use this same method to measure how good the defenses are that Kyler faced for example, but I think the overall point of this is that Big 12 teams aren't actually allowing a million points every game like the media would have you think; it's just that Oklahoma is that ridiculously good offensively that they're able to turn basically every game into that regardless of the opponent. Edit: Put another way: Oklahoma's opponents allowed an average of 27 points per game. Oklahoma scored an average of 48 points per game against them; their opponents allowed almost twice as many points as usual against Oklahoma. All of these defenses would probably be ranked decently better if they didn't play Oklahoma. For example, if you take the two Oklahoma games out of Texas' record; they would move up from the #57 defense to #40. Against everyone else, Texas allowed 23 points per game. Oklahoma scored 39 and 45 points against them this year. Edited January 17, 2019 by DCOrange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) What is going on in Happy Valley? Edited January 17, 2019 by Willyville Guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: What is going on in Happy Valley? They aren’t on the Franklin train from “great” to “elite”?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyville Guy Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Maybe they don't want to be blamed anymore for his playcalling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 17, 2019 Author Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Willyville Guy said: Maybe they don't want to be blamed anymore for his playcalling? Did you know that part of his recruiting pitch is telling them they can play on the team that won the first CFB championship with a black head coach? He was pitching this to Zach Harrison. First of all... never mind. Edited January 17, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YoloinOhio Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share Posted January 23, 2019 I updated the OP with the new tracker that 24/7 Sports has up for the portal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 Looks like Josh Jackson & McClease are out at VT... I'm fine with the Jackson departure, but surprised by McClease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 5 hours ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Looks like Josh Jackson & McClease are out at VT... I'm fine with the Jackson departure, but surprised by McClease. Is this because of the coaches leaving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Is this because of the coaches leaving? Not sure what's up with McClease. Kumah may have left because of the WR coach leaving. Jackson was told he would need to compete for his starting spot with Willis, Hooker, and Patterson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bill from NYC Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: At the rate things are going the PAC 10 will be decimated. I just don't think they can compete the way they used to for various reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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