Dablitzkrieg Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I saw Teller get thown around like a rag doll yesterday. They really struggled again. Dawkins needs to be moved to guard. They really need 4 more starters
T master Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 If we draft a stud LT & switch Dawkins to the RT position i hope he does better than he did in his rookie year on that side he didn't look real good there if i don't misremember . Given the options in FA & the draft i think we could see a big difference & a lot bigger one if McD realizes a new O line coach is in need !!
CodeMonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:29 AM, Bakin said: Other than a few stupid penalties, was it my imagination or did the line look fierce today? Gave Josh a lot of time back there?? and this Ford kid looked good n shifty! Expand I suspect the lions were not rushing 100% in an effort to contain Josh. His running ability is going to get in a lot of DC's heads. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 4:01 PM, CodeMonkey said: I suspect the lions were not rushing 100% in an effort to contain Josh. His running ability is going to get in a lot of DC's heads. Expand It's exactly what they were doing. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On 12/17/2018 at 12:31 AM, Helpmenow said: Wait until the pissed off pats get em next week. Expand Whose side are you on?? Part of being a fan is holding out hope for fairy tale endings! One that is at least in the realm of possibility this time around! ? On 12/17/2018 at 12:34 AM, Helpmenow said: Who did the play again the lowly lions. Will see next week Expand The same lowly Lions who already dispatched the Pats...got it! On 12/17/2018 at 12:35 PM, Royale with Cheese said: You could see on many occasions where the guys coming off the edge would slow down a lot once they engaged with our tackles. They wanted to keep Allen in the pocket. Expand I'll take the time to throw however I can get it, right? Edited December 17, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12
Royale with Cheese Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 4:03 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said: I'll take the time to throw however I can get it, right? Expand If Allen can keep developing on throwing from the pocket, he's going to be a nightmare of DC's. He will be a true dual threat. 1 1
Jerome007 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 They did OK in both run and pass block. OK was the average, in that they dominated some plays and got abused in others. A little strange. Still, we should rejoice at the glimpse of the future: on that TD pass, Josh had all day to throw, perfect pocket and line of sight. Add 2 good Olinemen through FA, a few WRs through draft picks, and the Bills O will be awesome to see!
ctk232 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:50 AM, atlbillsfan1975 said: As the season has gone on I’ve been less and less pleased with Dawkins. Seems less capable this season than last at LT Expand On 12/17/2018 at 1:00 AM, Dadonkadonk said: Agreed. He is far from elite. But he is serviceable at LT. He is not the answer at RT. Mills if the worst of the 5 would be ok at RT if they upgrade center and RG. No one knows if Dawkins can play LG. Teller looks no better than Miller/Ducasse but he is young/strong/raw. The o-line is a total mess and has been completely botched by McBeane. Only WR is worse. Expand To be fair he was never really drafted to be our LT and never really played the position in college. He was more of a mobile power pulling guard and I would still like to see him in that role. He's absolutely been serviceable as an LT, but if we want a stout line protecting Allen for the future, I agree we could likely do better at the LT position and maximize Dawkins ability in the interior. I'd be curious to see what he could do at RT as well should we need to replace the Mills turnstile, and certainly with the Tackles available in FA vs. the draft - it's likely we draft a Tackle and address the interior in FA, given where the FA talent is falling this year for OL. For now though, Dawkins has shown that he can be successful in the league at LT, but shows more to say that he is a guy we can have along the line in years to come wherever he ends up fitting in. I really wouldn't mind seeing him line up at RG with Teller opposite if we manage to address Center and LT/RT in FA and the draft, and miss out on the guards in FA.
Flip Johnson Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:54 AM, 34-78-83 said: The Lions played a spy on Josh all day which allowed a bit of extra time (a nice luxury to have for us!), but the line did a good job executing nonetheless! Expand This. The Lions played coverage and tried to spy Allen. The Jets sent pressure and embarassed our O-line but also failed to hem JA in, hence his 100-yard rushing game. It is an interesting catch-22 for defenses that will only intensify as he gets more weapons.
Alphadawg7 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:29 AM, Bakin said: Other than a few stupid penalties, was it my imagination or did the line look fierce today? Gave Josh a lot of time back there?? and this Ford kid looked good n shifty! Expand I dont think they looked good. I think they were better than before, but guys like Mills got abused multiple times. The biggest difference was how hard the Lions were spying on Josh and preventing the damage on the run. They mostly just rushed 4 and sometimes just 3. Yet even then they didn't always hold up. Our OL needs to be majorly overhauled as much as our WR group still. Teller and Dion are the only two right now I think could start on this line next year. We need 2 to 3 new starters easily. And Dion is living off last years potential, not this years performance and Teller has shown flashes of being a starter while also showing flashes of not being one too. No way we find 5 new starters, so those two I think are mostly likely going to be starting next year and hope they stabilize their play with better talent around them.
CodeMonkey Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 4:03 PM, NoHuddleKelly12 said: The same lowly Lions who already dispatched the Pats...got it! Expand I wonder what happened that game. The lions team yesterday had a whole lotta nuthin going on.
John from Riverside Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 12:51 AM, Mrbojanglezs said: The Lions hardly blitz and drop a lot in coverage this was expected. Expand That is the Allen affect......as he kills teams with his running when they get too far upfield.....
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 Some plays the Lions barely rushed. Most if not all plays they used one of their rushers as a spy to stop Josh's rushing. They rushed three on a bunch of plays and two on one play. The reason he had time is solely because they feared his running and bet that he couldn't beat them from the pocket. They wuz wrong. Josh even said it himself after the game.
John from Riverside Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) On 12/17/2018 at 1:43 AM, Helpmenow said: Of course. I can be a realist. Glad they won. Expand For you realist and jerk is not that far apart from each other Edited December 17, 2018 by John from Riverside 1
Kelly the Dog Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 7:37 PM, John from Riverside said: For you realist and jerk is not that far apart from each other Expand Brother from another mother.
hemma Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 Anyone notice how Boetteger performed? I guess he was infor two series .... about 9 plays. I read that McDermott mentioned him, but I don’t know if he gave an opinion.
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