WhoTom Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Jones’ inability to separate today was on display, and the Bills caught a break on that PI call against Slay (a good player). That looked like good D to me, and the one before it that wasn’t called would have been really marginal too. The reason these plays happen is because he really struggles to get open. He doesn’t look explosive enough out there. I'm not saying he's great, but I wouldn't give up on an early second round draft pick, who's only in his second year, and has shown signs of competence. Give him at least one more season to get it together.
Nextmanup Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, Max Fischer said: In what way does Allen’s game not translate? Too many first downs? Can make any throw? Is an elite threat to run? Can lead a bunch of B teamers to victory? The career 52.4% completion percentage is a good place to start.
CincyBillsFan Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Virgil said: 5 - Lions Defense against Allen - I was wondering how long it would take for opposing defenses to run some plays to negate Allen's rushing attack. The answer came today as the Lions ran a few schemes. For starters, the defensive line pinched the middle of the field when we ran the spread formation, not allowing Allen to break up the middle for a gain. On most pass plays, the Lions kept a spy on Allen, usually LB Jarrad Davis who helped prevent Allen from taking off. Credit to Allen for breaking the spy on his TD run, but he was overall forced to pass the ball, which he seemed fine doing as well. 10 - Allen - I'm going to say that this might have been one of Allen's better games this season. The rushing stats weren't there and he still made his weekly rookie mistake, but I liked how he adapted, his accuracy, and how overall he looked like a pocket quarterback this week. For the ugly, he still struggles to throw the ball away when scrambling out of the pocket and almost threw two interceptions. Someone needs to sit in a room and make him watch tape of those throws on repeat for a few days until he gets it. In the first half, he took a sack that knocked them out of field goal range because he broke outside of the pocket vs stepping up into it. It's worked in previous weeks, but not today. Now, for the positive. I really think this was his most accurate week. He had a few throws that required some extra effort by the receivers, but nothing that was un-catchable. I think Thompson will tell you he should have got his deep ball as would a few other guys. The Lions weren't going to let Allen break any big plays and it didn't really slow Allen down at all. Like every other week, he didn't look frazzled and just went with it. His deep ball to Foster was beautiful and he did what he needed to do to win the game. His hard count to get an off-sides on the last drive was well played as well. Overall, just a really good day for him. Nice review. I look forward to reading them after the game. I would only add that for: #5 - Once the Bills surround Allen with some dangerous skill players teams that try to do what the Lions did today to shut down his running game will get torched. #10 - Funny even though Allen only ran for 16 yards they were all big plays - he got three 1st downs and a TD off his runs. This is where things get interesting next year. if the Bills can land a dominant WR and a decent TE teams are going to have a hard time game planning this offense. Do they go all out to stop Allen's runs and get carved up through the air or do they take their chances with Allen as a RB? What I want to see is 3 games in a row where Allen only rushes for a total of 50 yards then have a game where he goes for 135. That IS sustainable in the NFL. 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The career 52.4% completion percentage is a good place to start. Seems to me this is becoming an increasingly irrelevant stat by the game. Today Allen showed good accuracy. 3 1
WhoTom Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The career 52.4% completion percentage is a good place to start. That shows how much our WR corps doesn't translate to the NFL. 3 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: Funny even though Allen only ran for 16 yards they were all big plays - he got three 1st downs and a TD off his runs. My brother-in-law, who lives in Seattle and doesn't see many Bills games, is visiting us this weekend. As we were watching Josh scramble on a play, he said "Oh, no!" as it looked like a sack was imminent. As Josh rolled to the right, I smiled and said, "Watch this." Three seconds later, he crossed the goal line. ? 2
cgg716 Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: The career 52.4% completion percentage is a good place to start. Legit question. Why does no one ever at least place some blame on the OC for this? We tend to call a lot of low percentage intermediate and deep routes, not runs disguised as passes like many offenses, which inflates completion percentage. I’m ok with this, but it definitely accounts for a portion of that number.
HappyDays Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: O-line looked it's best yet. Allen had lots of time often. They have to draft a feature back this off season. McCoy couldn't be more done... I've been saying all year the offensive line could use improvement, but the biggest thing we're missing is a reliable WR and TE. Croom had one of our best catches of the year today and for most other offenses that is just a normal play evey week.
Big Turk Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 Foster might be a #1...dude is on pace for 1315 yards, 51 catches and 7 TDs since he came back after being cut...I dont know what happened in that time frame but the production has been night and day...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, PearlHowardman said: You would be wasting your time. Josh Allen has a pass accuracy problem. Yup! Pass accuracy problem? How about a recievers that cannot catch a pass when it hits em in the numbers problem? I hope you were being facetious...
HOUSE Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) Virgil , Why are these thoughts out of order again? Edited December 16, 2018 by HOUSE 1
JMF2006 Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Pass accuracy problem? How about a recievers that cannot catch a pass when it hits em in the numbers problem? I hope you were being facetious... No he reads the stat line and the bs pre draft bull crap. This kid looks good and he has swagger. I don't see wildly inaccurate passes. He throws a good catchable ball with a lot of zip. Buffalo we have our franchise QB 21 years after the last one retired. 3
Bring it Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1 minute ago, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Pass accuracy problem? How about a recievers that cannot catch a pass when it hits em in the numbers problem? I hope you were being facetious... I agree. But today showed another side of Allen. Scrambling for big chunks of yardage not there? No problem he stood tall in the pocket and made throws. Not all were caught but they were there! He displayed great poise even being down to our last threat on the ground. If you can call him that. Allen never blinked. Ran the offense and delivered! 1 1
Mr. WEO Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I've been saying all year the offensive line could use improvement, but the biggest thing we're missing is a reliable WR and TE. Croom had one of our best catches of the year today and for most other offenses that is just a normal play evey week. Sure it could be improved. But it's not nearly the jailbreak matadors they were at the beginning of the season. Bills need a legit RB threat.
Virgil Posted December 16, 2018 Author Posted December 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Virgil , Why are these thoughts out of order again? It’s the lupus man. It gets ya
BuffaninATL Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....good show Virgil............. 1. Youngsters putting up 80+ on the ground with the SAME woeful OL certainly raises questions about Shady's "stall". 2. Pass Rush-just another woefully inconsistent game call by Frazier, McDermott or whoever is THE DC; mumblin', stumblin', bumblin' IMO. 3. Lions' Allen D-how long does Dabumble think he can get away with Josh as his feature back? 6. Daboll's play calling-meh 7. 'Tre- hit a much needed speed bump to bring him back into the fold IMO; damn good but a reality check is sometimes needed. 9. Foster-thank God this youngster heeded McDermott's wake up call: just continues to progress AND impress; could be special. 10. Allen-how the hell do you or why would you temper this jid's attitude and commitment to this team? Scares me with his reckless abandon.but that is HIM. Think Greenspan talked about "irrational exuberance"....this youngster is the poster boy for just that, all in the spirit of "his team". What else could you ask or hope for?......... love the Greenspan reference
Coach Tuesday Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 Every week the team playing AGAINST the Bills fights hard to make contested catches. Must be nice. 1
The Frankish Reich Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1. Running game. McCoy this year: 3.3 y/c. Ivory this year: 3.3. Murphy today: 3.3. Some guy named Ford today: 3.3. All of which says to me: (a) our running game is just crap. (b) nobody on this current - Shady included - is capable of making something out of nothing.
BuffaninATL Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: The career 52.4% completion percentage is a good place to start. and what a long career it has been ..... get back to us after you factor in all his dropped passes.
SCBills Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 Find Allen another 2 guys like Foster in the offseason and McKenzie/Jones can fight it out for the slot. Run 4-Wide sets with a back in the backfield with Allen. Have fun defending speed on the intermediate/deep patterns, accounting for the RB checkdown, and spying Allen.
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