I want no part of Tyrell Williams

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

8 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I've seen people clamor for him this upcoming offseason...possibly an overreaction since I admittedly don't watch the Chargers much...but he reminded me too much of KB. I know he had a highlight reel catch, but also had some bad drops, doesn't really fight for the ball, fumbled it...we need a way better player than this guy. 

 

Who is your solution then? He is going to be the best FA WR this year unless a big name is released. I personally like Donte Moncrief as our #1 WR next season and draft a rookie in the first or 2nd round depending on where we pick.

[Andrew Son]

I was thinking the same thing last night.  Looks to have poor hands.

 

On another note, Mike Williams has arrived.  I guess he's no longer a bust.

[GunnerBill]

6 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Who is your solution then? He is going to be the best FA WR this year unless a big name is released. I personally like Donte Moncrief as our #1 WR next season and draft a rookie in the first or 2nd round depending on where we pick.

 

Golden Tate? I know he is older but he is better than Williams. I think Robby Anderson is better too though he is an RFA not an UFA and I also prefer Onunwa as a player..... but he is hurt a lot and Williams in fairness does tend to be available.

[Not at the table Karlos]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Yea I am not a fan either. I hadn't realised until speaking to our Jets correspondent on here the other day that Robby Anderson is a RFA. He is now head and shoulders my #1 choice at receiver. If the Jets try and whack the low tender on him I'd make my move. Ironically my 2nd choice remains Onunwa but his constant injuries do worry me.

Dont the jets have more cap space then us? I don't think Anderson leaves unless he forces his way out.

[CommonCents]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Golden Tate? I know he is older but he is better than Williams. I think Robby Anderson is better too though he is an RFA not an UFA and I also prefer Onunwa as a player..... but he is hurt a lot and Williams in fairness does tend to be available.

Anderson is the best of the bunch when his head is screwed on straight. Tate’s best football is behind him.

[BuffaloBillsGospel]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Golden Tate? I know he is older but he is better than Williams. I think Robby Anderson is better too though he is an RFA not an UFA and I also prefer Onunwa as a player..... but he is hurt a lot and Williams in fairness does tend to be available.

 

Golden Tate 63 receptions, 706 yards, 4 TD... Tyrell Williams 38 receptions, 618 yards, 5 TD, Williams has almost the same amount of yards and 1 more TD but is also 5 years younger and 4" taller. I don't hate GoldenTate but if both players will be commanding top dollar which i think they will be then I'm going with the younger guy who is 6'4".

[GunnerBill]

8 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Dont the jets have more cap space then us? I don't think Anderson leaves unless he forces his way out.

 

I suspect you are correct. As I say he is an RFA so it depends what they choose to do. If they try and cheap out on the original round tender I would absolutely go in for him.

 

7 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Anderson is the best of the bunch when his head is screwed on straight. Tate’s best football is behind him.

 

I agree but see the point I have made elsewhere about the benefit of a vet - even one with his best football behind him - in helping in the room and taking the pressure off a highly drafted rookie. Tate is someone I see benefit in our young receivers (including potentially a rookie) learning from. What will they learn from Tyrell Williams? He has been in the league 4 years and his route running is still suspect.  

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Golden Tate 63 receptions, 706 yards, 4 TD... Tyrell Williams 38 receptions, 618 yards, 5 TD, Williams has almost the same amount of yards and 1 more TD but is also 5 years younger and 4" taller. I don't hate GoldenTate but if both players will be commanding top dollar which i think they will be then I'm going with the younger guy who is 6'4".

 

And struggles running routes but puts up numbers as a #3 with Philip Rivers throwing to him. Whole different ball game bringing him in here and trying to make him the focal point of your attack. His sloppy route running will not get him open when he is the guy being doubled rather than the two beasts ahead of him on the depth chart in LA.

 

EDIT: I don't hate Williams and I wouldn't hate us signing him, he is clearly better than the guys we have here. But I think there will be better options that represent better value and better fits. If you care about him being younger it is because you want to throw a 4 year deal at him paying decent money and make him a key long term piece of your offense. I don't think he is good enough to be that.

Edited December 14, 2018 by GunnerBill

[CaptnCoke11]

We need a #1 WR.. Tyrell Williams is far from that 

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:

We need a #1 WR.. Tyrell Williams is far from that 

 

I agree.

[billsredneck1]

26 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Golden Tate 63 receptions, 706 yards, 4 TD... Tyrell Williams 38 receptions, 618 yards, 5 TD, Williams has almost the same amount of yards and 1 more TD but is also 5 years younger and 4" taller. I don't hate GoldenTate but if both players will be commanding top dollar which i think they will be then I'm going with the younger guy who is 6'4".

interesting stats...as well as tyrell's avg. of over 16 yds. per catch.

[buffalobillswin]

I think Tyrell Williams is really good. Also remember he plays in a crowded offense where Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, Melvin Gordon and Austin Aekler are all ahead of him in touches. 

[17islongenough]

I would like Williams here but not as a #1.  We should sign him as a #2.  Then we take our #1 in the draft.  So it would be Rookie, Williams, Jones, Foster and Mckenzie. 

[CommonCents]

I agree with having a veteran in the WR room. It hurts that Manny Sanders blew out his Achilles because he would have been a good mentor for the guys we draft. Denver can get out of his contract after this season and with Hamilton in place Sanders time was up.

 

 

 

 

[jrober38]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said:

 

Who is your solution then? He is going to be the best FA WR this year unless a big name is released. I personally like Donte Moncrief as our #1 WR next season and draft a rookie in the first or 2nd round depending on where we pick.

 

Neither Williams or Moncrief are anything close to #1 WRs. 

 

The upcoming class of free agent receivers is a bunch of #3 guys who have either never lived up to their potential or whose best football is behind them.

[Uncle Joe]

9 hours ago, HomeskillitMoorman said:

I've seen people clamor for him this upcoming offseason...possibly an overreaction since I admittedly don't watch the Chargers much...but he reminded me too much of KB. I know he had a highlight reel catch, but also had some bad drops, doesn't really fight for the ball, fumbled it...we need a way better player than this guy. 

He fought for it really well after he fumbled it and recovered it with 3 defenders close to the ball.

I like Williams but don't want to overpay, nor do I think he is a #1 receiver,

Edited December 14, 2018 by Uncle Joe

[blacklabel]

Whatever they do for the WR group, I'm not expecting a "true #1" to suddenly appear on the roster for next season. Rather, I think they will have "pass catchers by committee" much like New England has always done. Aside from Moss, they've never really had a real number one wideout. They've always used a variety of receivers, tight ends and running backs. Given that Daboll sharpened his skills in NE for many years, I expect the same type of setup in Buffalo. He's going to want a group of guys each with different skill sets so they can create match-up problems. 

[Plano]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Travis Benjamin is the WR who caught my eye last night

Really? Mike Williams is the one who caught my eye last night.

[Lieutenant Aldo Raine]

I watch a lot of Chargers football, and like I said before, Tyrell Williams is a better version of Kelvin Benjamin.  He has good hands and gives 100% effort.  But he is not a good route runner and while his straight line speed his fast, he is not crisp and quick in making certain cuts.  Phillip Rivers has a lot to do with his success. 

[947]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Travis Benjamin is the WR who caught my eye last night

 

Travis Benjamin is fool's gold. He's nothing more than a WR4, and those can be found anywhere.

[Matt_In_NH]

Tyrel Williams has decent stats but that is because he plays with Rivers.  If he was in Buffalo the last 4 years he would have had 500 yards max for any one season and people would call him trash.