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TNF Game Thread: Chargers (10-3) vs. Chiefs (11-2) at 8:20 PM ET on FOX, NFL Network, & Amazon Prime Video


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1 minute ago, TheFunPolice said:

Chiefs have had 3 big time primetime games against top teams

 

Patriots

Rams

Chargers

 

They are 0-3

That's Andy Reid for you.  Wait until the playoffs.

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I was never big on Phillip  - that changed though when I saw him play the Bills four years ago.  It was cold and very windy - to see him throw the ball around in the wind the way he did that day was something else.  There was one play we were sitting slightly behind him and to he launched a bomb in the wind and I was thinking OMG - what about the noodle arm?  He just came in and controlled the game with passes that cut through the wind and kicked butt.  It was so impressive.  I've thought very differently about both his arm and him since that day - he really won me over.

 

That being said - all I care about for the rest of the regular season is outcomes that put the Cheaters in the worst possible position.

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6 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Pettine was 10-22 and Schwartz was 29-51.  Albeit with the Browns and Lions.  Helps Lynn when you have an elite quarterback.

I know they weren't successful but we preaching continuity when we bring in random coaches and want to see them out. Is this not the clear alternative to promote from within if the HC is underperforming? 

 

I'll admit on the flip side we know more about these guys than other teams possibly do. We've just let a lot of future HCs go when we were trying to fill the exact same role. And yess Browns and Lions?? The teams Schwartz and Pettine left were much better than where they went or were IMO

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Posted
1 minute ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

I know they weren't successful but we preaching continuity when we bring in random coaches and want to see them out. Is this not the clear alternative to promote from within if the HC is underperforming? 

 

I'll admit on the flip side we know more about these guys than other teams possibly do. We've just let a lot of future HCs go when we were trying to fill the exact same role. And yess Browns and Lions?? The teams Schwartz and Pettine left were much better IMO

Usually you dismiss almost the whole staff when you fire a head coach.  I'm having a hard time remembering any positional coach that was promoted to head coach who was successful after that head coach was fired.  We'll see what Jason Garrett can pull off this year.  My money is on a wild card home loss.

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3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Usually you dismiss almost the whole staff when you fire a head coach.  I'm having a hard time remembering any positional coach that was promoted to head coach who was successful after that head coach was fired.  We'll see what Jason Garrett can pull off this year.  My money is on a wild card home loss.

Is that really the case? Seems odd to me. I wouldn't possibly know where it's happened before. But don't really understand the concept of pushing the hard reset button when you had a unit that worked well under a coordinator and likely had cache with the players eliminating the need to scrap everything and start all over again.

Posted
56 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Officials horrible at the end. Say whatever about the missed hit on Rivers but pushoff by Williams twice in end zone. Everything the NFL officials do sets up the Pats. Officials miss all kind of stuff but the ones they choose to throw show their intent.  KC will now lose at SEA and it will be yet another SB involving New England. So freaking sick of that team and would like to just watch the Super Bowl and not care who wins. 

The officiating was awful overall, but I felt like the Chargers got the short end of the stick all game. But bad all around. The NFL has to do something about it. I know that Goodell et al love them some 43-42 games, but it’s ugly to watch. Of course, I know what their rejoinder is: the ratings are up.

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2 minutes ago, Haze_21 said:

Chiefs are clearly the better team despite their shite defense.

 

I am pissed la went for 2 i wanted ot.

 

Pretty sure the refs were too. They seemed hellbent on paying a specific scoring spread and then another bet on taking to overtime for the network and gamblers alike.

 

And Lynn defecated in their faces..

Posted
25 minutes ago, Thriftygamer83 said:

Both teams have hall of fame Quarterbacks and we are starting over from scratch.  As it is the rebuilding would have taken just as long.  

Chargers were losing with the HOF QB for years before Lynn

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All the complaining about the officiating aside. The Chargers seemed extra aggressive to push the boundaries in what ultimately lead to a flagfest where most missed calls would go to their advantage.

 

Referees caught that. But regardless when the flagfest started with tacky calls and makeup calls abound on national television the Chargers seemed like they got what they wanted as a lesser team forcing the refs to take over the game and mitigate talent on both sides of the ball.

 

Not that the refs favored the Chargers one bit.. but the Chargers made the game more of a toss up to make things more even with the Chiefs by helping spark a flagfest

Posted
39 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Haha watch out. I'll admit I don't understand why we refuse to promote our coordinators that move on to HC jobs.. from Schwartz to Lynn to Pettine. We've had great coordinators teams covet for HC when we're looking for HCs. It's weird.

 

I think the Lynn situation required a total blow up and culture change. I think he's a good coach, but we needed a change. Continuity would not have been a good thing after Rex.  With Schwartz, the stink of the 0-16 season in Detroit had not worn off at that point in time. Pettine was never considered as HC here as he flamed out in Cleveland before our job was up for grabs again. 

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1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

Yeah, the Dolphins thing is really strange as the Phins have been mostly mediocre throughout that stretch. Hard to explain. The Bills are mentally shook by the Pats if Brady plays, and wilt under the pressure. They will not win another game vs NE until Brady is gone. 

In the history of North American professional sports, no franchise has ever been owned by another franchise the way the Bills have been owned by the NE Patriots for the last 18 years.  Never.  It’s absolutely unprecedented.

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Posted
2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think the Lynn situation required a total blow up and culture change. I think he's a good coach, but we needed a change. Continuity would not have been a good thing after Rex.  With Schwartz, the stink of the 0-16 season in Detroit had not worn off at that point in time. Pettine was never considered as HC here as he flamed out in Cleveland before our job was up for grabs again. 

Schwartz was hired in Detroit after the 2008 0-16 season. In 2011 his third year as head coach, the Lions made it to the playoffs for the first time since 1999. The Lions went 4-12 and 7-9 the next two seasons and he was fired.

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2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

 

I think the Lynn situation required a total blow up and culture change. I think he's a good coach, but we needed a change. Continuity would not have been a good thing after Rex.  With Schwartz, the stink of the 0-16 season in Detroit had not worn off at that point in time. Pettine was never considered as HC here as he flamed out in Cleveland before our job was up for grabs again. 

 

Schwartz wasn't the Head Coach of the 0-16 Lions. He took over following the 0-16 season with no talent on the roster and by year 3 they were 10-6 and a playoff team. The two years after that he lost control a little bit.

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Anyone notice the kid Justin Jackson at running back for the Chargers? Runs just like Freddie. Maybe not quite as strong yet...

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Posted
3 hours ago, mannc said:

In the history of North American professional sports, no franchise has ever been owned by another franchise the way the Bills have been owned by the NE Patriots for the last 18 years.  Never.  It’s absolutely unprecedented.

 

It was far worse with the Fish winning 20 in a row on the Bills.

 

at least I can understand Brady and Belichick dominating. The Fish were nothing special for the last handful of years of owning the Bills. Griese wasn’t a great QB.

 

 

 

Posted
25 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

It was far worse with the Fish winning 20 in a row on the Bills.

 

at least I can understand Brady and Belichick dominating. The Fish were nothing special for the last handful of years of owning the Bills. Griese wasn’t a great QB.

 

 

 

 

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