bbb Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/15/2018 at 4:28 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Captain Buzzkill here: https://www.peele.net/lib/sociocul.html "When one sees a film like Moonstruck, the benign and universal nature of drinking in New York Italian culture is palpable on the screen. If one can't detect the difference between drinking in this setting, or at Jewish or Chinese weddings, or in Greek taverns, and that in Irish working-class bars, or in Portuguese bars in the worn-out industrial towns of New England, or in run-down shacks where Indians and Eskimos gather to get drunk, or in Southern bars where men down shots and beers--and furthermore, if one can't connect these different drinking settings, styles, and cultures with the repeatedly measured differences in alcoholism rates among these same groups, then I can only think one is blind to the realities of alcoholism." ~Peele, S., Diseasing of America, Lexington Books, Lexington, MA, 1989, pp. 72-73. I don't give a ***** what some soccer player has to say. 1
row_33 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Someone who drinks more than me. Someone who annoys me that shows any sign that they have had a drink in the last hour
4merper4mer Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 On December 15, 2018 at 4:28 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Captain Buzzkill here: https://www.peele.net/lib/sociocul.html "When one sees a film like Moonstruck, the benign and universal nature of drinking in New York Italian culture is palpable on the screen. If one can't detect the difference between drinking in this setting, or at Jewish or Chinese weddings, or in Greek taverns, and that in Irish working-class bars, or in Portuguese bars in the worn-out industrial towns of New England, or in run-down shacks where Indians and Eskimos gather to get drunk, or in Southern bars where men down shots and beers--and furthermore, if one can't connect these different drinking settings, styles, and cultures with the repeatedly measured differences in alcoholism rates among these same groups, then I can only think one is blind to the realities of alcoholism." ~Peele, S., Diseasing of America, Lexington Books, Lexington, MA, 1989, pp. 72-73. If you're watching Moonstruck for any reason, you've got a few things to address before booze. If you're using it as source material you should drink more. On December 15, 2018 at 12:50 PM, PromoTheRobot said: A functioning alcky is still an alcky. I often wonder if alcohol hits some people harder? I have a friend. We go out and have a few drinks. I might feel a buzz while he becomes almost catatonic. I've had servers cut us off seeing him that way. To me he only had a few beers. Unless he's got a fifth stashed away and he's slugging it down when I'm not looking I don't understand how he gets so bad. I barely ever drink but when I do I feel it real quick...half a beer. Two beers and no way would I get behind a wheel for hours. Three and I'm not catatonic, but bombed. I know resistance is built, but I do think it hits people differently.
mead107 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 Drink half a qt of vodka a night fall down the stairs on way to bed. Have a brother Inlaw that has developed a problem. Also have a sister-in-law that drinks 12 oz glasses of gin every day
teef Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: Did your gynecologist approve of you cutting back? at first i was worried about my liver... now i'm worried about my manhood!
WhyteDwarf Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 I feel that any willing self impairment is self destructive. If you need to drink to "loosen up" or to "have fun", you have a problem IMO. 1
ALF Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 On 12/13/2018 at 5:57 PM, DC Tom said: Denial is a symptom. The moment you deny being an alcoholic, you're an alcoholic. Like me. I'm not an alcoholic. So I must be. Even though I don't drink. But I deny it, so I have a problem. Or so I've been told... Yossarian : Ok, let me see if I've got this straight. In order to be grounded, I've got to be crazy. And I must be crazy to keep flying. But if I ask to be grounded, that means I'm not crazy anymore, and I have to keep flying. Dr. 'Doc' Daneeka : You got it, that's Catch-22.
row_33 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 22 minutes ago, ALF said: Yossarian : Ok, let me see if I've got this straight. In order to be grounded, I've got to be crazy. And I must be crazy to keep flying. But if I ask to be grounded, that means I'm not crazy anymore, and I have to keep flying. Dr. 'Doc' Daneeka : You got it, that's Catch-22. The catch 22 is that this trivial crap made a lot of money and he was bitterly trapped in it the rest of his life
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 18, 2018 Posted December 18, 2018 3 hours ago, WhyteDwarf said: I feel that any willing self impairment is self destructive. If you need to drink to "loosen up" or to "have fun", you have a problem IMO. I don't drink to have a good time. Indrinknto enhance a good time. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 13 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I don't drink to have a good time. Indrinknto enhance a good time. So it's like MSG or "Accent." If you put it on sh*t it will taste like "better sh*t?" That's what usually happens with alcohol and why alcohol fueled events CAN spiral out of control. If you are having a good time and need to make it better... Something is wrong.
Virgil Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 The moment you don’t feel quite right and only alcohol is the only thing that makes you feel normal, you’re an alcoholic. If you can make the choice to stop drinking for a week, actually do it from time to time, and don’t feel any adverse affects, you’re not an alcoholic. Saying you could, but don’t actually do it, doesn’t count. 1 1
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 4 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: So it's like MSG or "Accent." If you put it on sh*t it will taste like "better sh*t?" That's what usually happens with alcohol and why alcohol fueled events CAN spiral out of control. If you are having a good time and need to make it better... Something is wrong. I think it's more like some garlic butter on a steak. 1
Royale with Cheese Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, RaoulDuke79 said: I think it's more like some garlic butter on a steak. Or a 3 some. One girl is good...two is even better. Edited December 19, 2018 by Royale with Cheese
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Or a 3 some. One girl I good...two is even better.
Royale with Cheese Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 (edited) The main reason why alcohol is provided at party's, both home and work settings...is because it helps with having a better time. I won't leave a party if there isn't alcohol but it's a better party with it there. It's the same with food. Food makes it better. Edited December 19, 2018 by Royale with Cheese 2
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said: The main reason why alcohol is provided at party's, both home and work settings...is because it helps with having a better time. I won't leave a party if there isn't alcohol but it's a better party with it there. It's the same with food. Food makes it better. like George Costanza insisting a TV has to be on when he tries to talk to his parents
Royale with Cheese Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, row_33 said: like George Costanza insisting a TV has to be on when he tries to talk to his parents Would you win the bet?
row_33 Posted December 19, 2018 Posted December 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Would you win the bet? not a hope
Royale with Cheese Posted December 19, 2018 Author Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: not a hope
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