Jauronimo Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 21 hours ago, DRsGhost said: Nobody has chimed in to say that they will not defend the indefensible. That's the silence you typically get from the left. That's the silence you get from silly demands. 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: That's the silence you get from silly demands. Uh huh. More like the silence of complicity. 1 1
Jauronimo Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Uh huh. More like the silence of complicity. You've really taken the bait here. These are distractions meant to feed your sense of outrage. They have found you are highly susceptible to building mountain ranges out of molehills because "OMG this is what liberals believe!!". Works every time. Do you really think drag shows are tenets of any single American's core political beliefs? Someone whose time is less valuable than mine could spend a lifetime posting similar videos with similar demands, "Republicans, defend this!". None of us would be any wiser or better for it. 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Jauronimo said: You've really taken the bait here. These are distractions meant to feed your sense of outrage. They have found you are highly susceptible to building mountain ranges out of molehills because "OMG this is what liberals believe!!". Works every time. Do you really think drag shows are tenets of any single American's core political beliefs? Someone whose time is less valuable than mine could spend a lifetime posting similar videos with similar demands, "Republicans, defend this!". None of us would be any wiser or better for it. I specifically asked if anyone HERE condones THIS specific event. I specifically stated I wasn't making any statements of how widespread this behavior is. You ignored all that and made it about blanket statements after I took blanket statements off the table. So it is indeed you who took the bait. Your deflection says it all. 2 1
Jauronimo Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: I specifically asked if anyone HERE condones THIS specific event. I specifically stated I wasn't making any statements of how widespread this behavior is. You ignored all that and made it about blanket statements after I took blanket statements off the table. So it is indeed you who took the bait. Your deflection says it all. Right, because "thats the silence you get from the left" and "silence of complicity" isn't insinuating that the nefarious lefties here hold drag shows as core values but are just too cowardly to defend their wicked ways. You specifically had to go back and edit the original post and add a bunch of qualifiers that are not contained in the dialogue on this page. Between the original post and the follow ups your intent is crystal clear. There would have to be substance for there to be deflection. No one is obligated to answer your silly demands.
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: Right, because "thats the silence you get from the left" and "silence of complicity" isn't insinuating that the nefarious lefties here hold drag shows as core values but are just too cowardly to defend their wicked ways. You specifically had to go back and edit the original post and add a bunch of qualifiers that are not contained in the dialogue on this page. Between the original post and the follow ups your intent is crystal clear. There would have to be substance for there to be deflection. No one is obligated to answer your silly demands. The original question: Who among our Bills fan leftists here will go on record and specifically condemn the above activity? Not asking about how widespread it is or Qanon, pizzagate etc. Who will specifically condemn what is shown in this video, taking children to drag queen shows? There it is. The edit was to ask about taking children to adult clubs with scantily clad biological women or men to ask the same question without being "transphobic." And here you are playing word games and misrepresenting everything I asked. Is it really that hard to just say that all of the scenarios are disgusting and in no universe appropriate for grade schoolers? Yet you can't. 3 1
Warcodered Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 16 hours ago, DRsGhost said: So...Yea or nay to support drag queens dancing in front of and with children at an adult club? Bueller......Bueller? I mean would a regular strip club be better somehow?
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Warcodered said: I mean would a regular strip club be better somehow? Of course not. And again that question has already been asked and also not answered. I also don't remember Candy from the Sundowner performing at assemblies at my grade school. Nor do I see those types of videos being posted on social media today. Edited June 9, 2022 by DRsGhost 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 13 hours ago, DRsGhost said: The original question: Who among our Bills fan leftists here will go on record and specifically condemn the above activity? Not asking about how widespread it is or Qanon, pizzagate etc. Who will specifically condemn what is shown in this video, taking children to drag queen shows? There it is. The edit was to ask about taking children to adult clubs with scantily clad biological women or men to ask the same question without being "transphobic." And here you are playing word games and misrepresenting everything I asked. Is it really that hard to just say that all of the scenarios are disgusting and in no universe appropriate for grade schoolers? Yet you can't. I also haven't "gone on record" today that the earth is round or the sky is blue. And I'm not a leftist so your demand does not apply to me. If you want engagement, bring substance and ask real questions rather than grandstand on non-events. If you want to be ignored or derided, troll the depths of the internet for more proof of trans propaganda in schools.
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: I also haven't "gone on record" today that the earth is round or the sky is blue. And I'm not a leftist so your demand does not apply to me. If you want engagement, bring substance and ask real questions rather than grandstand on non-events. If you want to be ignored or derided, troll the depths of the internet for more proof of trans propaganda in schools. Still won't answer. Non event? The depths of the internet? These scenarios have been repeatedly documented over recent years on video. They aren't isolated incidents. One is too many. Is it for you? Nevermind. I'm only left to conclude that you're complicit with it all. 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, DRsGhost said: Still won't answer. Non event? The depths of the internet? These scenarios have been repeatedly documented over recent years on video. They aren't isolated incidents. One is too many. Is it for you? Nevermind. I'm only left to conclude that you're complicit with it all. You didn't answer it either. What part of the "Bills leftists" qualification did you not understand in your vapid post? Complicity was your accusation and thats when I engaged this nonsense. Conclusion implies there was some type thought process that occurred or synthesis of relevant information. Asking who will condemn something that NO ONE on this board has ever publicly supported and then drawing damning conclusions from your own folly is asinine. Yet you will defend it to the death. LOL one is too many. Virtue signaling and pearl clutching intensifies.
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: You didn't answer it either. What part of the "Bills leftists" qualification did you not understand in your vapid post? Complicity was your accusation and thats when I engaged this nonsense. Conclusion implies there was some type thought process that occurred or synthesis of relevant information. Asking who will condemn something that NO ONE on this board has ever publicly supported and then drawing damning conclusions from your own folly is asinine. Yet you will defend it to the death. LOL one is too many. Virtue signaling and pearl clutching intensifies. We don't have D or R next to our usernames. I can only go by the content of your posts and they scream leftist. The silence is deafening from the left on this issue. Yet you chime in with the defense that it's obvious that everyone is against this despite the fact that these types of events are indeed happening often. But sure, these are videos culled from the "depths of the internet" that do not deserve any attention. Look away. Complicit. 1 1
Jauronimo Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 Just now, DRsGhost said: We don't have D or R next to our usernames. I can only go by the content of your posts and they scream leftist. The silence is deafening from the left on this issue. Yet you chime in with the defense that it's obvious that everyone is against this despite the fact that these types of events are indeed happening often. But sure, these are videos culled from the "depths of the internet" that do not deserve any attention. Look away. Complicit. Because I am one the few that isn't here to gleefully participate in the circle jerk and has the audacity to question or challenge posts rather than just celebrate any and every FJB, LGB, MAGA witticism I see. Thats what this place used to be about before Trump took office and the great schism that sent half of PPP out to form their own Utopia. Calling each issue as you see it and not tribes towing the party line to win the TBD culture war. By the way, the same thing is happening over at BF.com. The people who left this board because of its supposed political slant are finally rid of all the loony "leftists" and now they're finding more "liberals" among their ranks. And of course, liberals are anyone who interrupts the echo chamber. Funny how that happens. Stay silent unless you want to be labeled a liberal. Theres complicity for you. 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 42 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Because I am one the few that isn't here to gleefully participate in the circle jerk and has the audacity to question or challenge posts rather than just celebrate any and every FJB, LGB, MAGA witticism I see. Thats what this place used to be about before Trump took office and the great schism that sent half of PPP out to form their own Utopia. Calling each issue as you see it and not tribes towing the party line to win the TBD culture war. By the way, the same thing is happening over at BF.com. The people who left this board because of its supposed political slant are finally rid of all the loony "leftists" and now they're finding more "liberals" among their ranks. And of course, liberals are anyone who interrupts the echo chamber. Funny how that happens. Stay silent unless you want to be labeled a liberal. Theres complicity for you. And here you are being part of the problem. This rant is exhibit A. How you got from refusing to address the obvious increase in recent years to exposing children to drag queens and transgender women discussion (on topic in this thread btw) to this off tangent rant I guess only you can answer. 1
BillsFanNC Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 This stuff isn't becoming more commonplace. Not at all. Also, Big tech isn't silencing voices who report on it becoming more commonplace. Not at all. Everyone is against this stuff, man! Just look away. 1 1
Precision Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 3 hours ago, DRsGhost said: This stuff isn't becoming more commonplace. Not at all. Also, Big tech isn't silencing voices who report on it becoming more commonplace. Not at all. Everyone is against this stuff, man! Just look away. I respectfully think you're looking at this entirely wrong. Schools are failing, they can't teach math or science (honestly, I think most teachers aren't smart enough for the subject matter). They won't teach history, because maybe something bad happened in the past. Reading and writing are a joke as most young people can't string together 2 to 3 grammatically correct paragraphs. Even online publications regularly have grammatical, spelling or punctuation mistakes. They want to teach CRT because honestly how could you prove a teacher is instructing CRT poorly? I'm feeling like this stripper idea is a good one. At least schools are finally teaching a tangible skill. Honestly most of the younger generation will probably do worse in life than a stripper. They should look into expanding this program into prostitution or another skill that teachers have personal familiarity with. 1
Jauronimo Posted June 10, 2022 Posted June 10, 2022 7 hours ago, DRsGhost said: And here you are being part of the problem. This rant is exhibit A. How you got from refusing to address the obvious increase in recent years to exposing children to drag queens and transgender women discussion (on topic in this thread btw) to this off tangent rant I guess only you can answer. Part of what problem? What is the obvious increase in exposing children to drag queens and trans women? Do you have any backup or are you referring to how often you see it now that you've subscribed to TicToks (I cant even believe I have to address TicToc as a source) following the drag show epidemic? I thought you weren't talking about the frequency of this kinda thing....thats ok it was heavily implied. No one posts videos and demands public condemnation for things they believe to be infrequent and or insignificant. Yeah, yeah, one is too many and other cop outs. Its borderline child abuse to celebrate the sexuality of grade school children if that was what was happening in the first video you shared. Not much context to go on. Its also massively hypocritical since the latest thinking is all about how gender and sexuality are far from known until early adulthood. The second video, I would have no idea it was a drag queen or trans if the title had not indicated. Again, no context but if that was just a drag queen poorly lip synching then who cares? Its about as offensive as powder puff football. Rage on. 1 hour ago, Precision said: I respectfully think you're looking at this entirely wrong. Schools are failing, they can't teach math or science (honestly, I think most teachers aren't smart enough for the subject matter). They won't teach history, because maybe something bad happened in the past. Reading and writing are a joke as most young people can't string together 2 to 3 grammatically correct paragraphs. Even online publications regularly have grammatical, spelling or punctuation mistakes. They want to teach CRT because honestly how could you prove a teacher is instructing CRT poorly? I'm feeling like this stripper idea is a good one. At least schools are finally teaching a tangible skill. Honestly most of the younger generation will probably do worse in life than a stripper. They should look into expanding this program into prostitution or another skill that teachers have personal familiarity with. We have adults here who insist they are politically informed who do not use punctuation, can't conjugate verbs, and generally communicate at a grade school level. 1
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