Wacka Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 Ironic that Billstime is caring about kids but is the biggest (if not he only supporter ) of the Lincoln Project on this board. 1
BuffaninSarasota Posted March 10, 2022 Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, John Adams said: I'm Deranged Rhino, like every other poster on the board in your mind. And I have no interest in paying you any compliments. You are tied with Big Blitz for the second worst poster here. I'm not against the bills' language. My point is to ask if you see them for what they are: They are not particularly big wins. They just throw red meat out to the base and score political points at the expense of trans- and gay-phobic Republicans. They passed them just to pander to that base. ahhhh.....the legend of DR is growing again in BillsTime's mush melon
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, BillStime said: HA - and you are a subject matter expert.... because your wife is a teacher? Please block me or go back to your safe place. And you're an expert in pedagogy because you have a Twitter account? Please....just stop it now. Your slanderous name calling from yesterday proved where you're coming from on this issue.
BillStime Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: And you're an expert in pedagogy because you have a Twitter account? Please....just stop it now. Your slanderous name calling from yesterday proved where you're coming from on this issue. Um why does this ISSUE make you so uncomfortable? You don’t have to be an educator to understand the real purpose of these laws. And you’re going to talk to me about pedagogy and not question these so called politicians and the motives of dark money pushing all these manufactured issues? You Idiots make great pawns.
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: Um why does this ISSUE make you so uncomfortable? You don’t have to be an educator to understand the real purpose of these laws. And you’re going to talk to me about pedagogy and not question these so called politicians and the motives of dark money pushing all these manufactured issues? You Idiots make great pawns. I’m not the least bit uncomfortable. I’m however amazed that you think your typical grade school teacher has any expertise in these matters. There are people who do….but not teachers. That’s not their core competency. You don’t know that? Or are you just so accustomed to being an internet expert on everything because you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night? 1 1
BillStime Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Wacka said: Ironic that Billstime is caring about kids but is the biggest (if not he only supporter ) of the Lincoln Project on this board. 😘
BillStime Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m not the least bit uncomfortable. I’m however amazed that you think your typical grade school teacher has any expertise in these matters. There are people who do….but not teachers. That’s not their core competency. You don’t know that? Or are you just so accustomed to being an internet expert on everything because you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night? You don’t get it - this bill isn’t about children, parents or teachers - this bill is a clumsy partisan gimmick to appease insecure people like you.
BuffaninSarasota Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: And you're an expert in pedagogy because you have a Twitter account? Please....just stop it now. Your slanderous name calling from yesterday proved where you're coming from on this issue. You were slandered as well Deek? …..makes him an even bigger pompous d-bag
LeviF Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 https://www.weteachnyc.org/resources/collection/lgbt-lessons/ This website is maintained by the NYC DOE.
Magox Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 There is a small movement but a movement none the less within the educational system to attempt to teach children distorted views on race and gender. There are educational crazies and academics who believe that parents should have less parental rights and cede some ground to the state. It absolutely exists and those voices are growing. I would have never have imagined how amplified the voices of the unhinged and radical left have become. They have the backing from many of the editorial boards of major newspapers such as The NY Times. Even though the DeSantis bill is in part performative it also draws distinct political fault lines of those that want to defend in this case Classroom instruction on sexual orientation from our educators for 5-8 year olds and parents who want more say of what is being taught in school. DeSantis is one of the most politically astute politicians that I can remember in a very long time. This is a great political battle for him and for those that are defenders of “parental rights”. Maybe some years back it would have been very risky to undertake this fight because of how dishonest the media is when it comes to correctly describing the hat the bill does and doesn’t do. Predictably the left and their media lapdogs are distorting the bill as some sort of homophonic bill that shuts down free speech. Where they and Hollywood can vapidly chant and tweet “Gay Gay Gay” as if they are being defiant to some tyrant. It’s a boogeyman, there is no there there. The days of the legacy media having an outsized influence are long gone. Their role is diminishing and the fact that DeSantis is able to deftly pick his battles and articulate his views presents a threat to the left. This is yet just another attempt of the left trying to tear down DeSantis and they will lose this argument as well just like they did with all the Florida COVID hysterics. DeSantis will cruise to victory in Florida and defeat Crist by anywhere from 5-9 points. Then he will be well-positioned to take on Trump for the GOP presidential primary. 1 1
Chef Jim Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 44 minutes ago, Magox said: There is a small movement but a movement none the less within the educational system to attempt to teach children distorted views on race and gender. There are educational crazies and academics who believe that parents should have less parental rights and cede some ground to the state. It absolutely exists and those voices are growing. I would have never have imagined how amplified the voices of the unhinged and radical left have become. They have the backing from many of the editorial boards of major newspapers such as The NY Times. Even though the DeSantis bill is in part performative it also draws distinct political fault lines of those that want to defend in this case Classroom instruction on sexual orientation from our educators for 5-8 year olds and parents who want more say of what is being taught in school. DeSantis is one of the most politically astute politicians that I can remember in a very long time. This is a great political battle for him and for those that are defenders of “parental rights”. Maybe some years back it would have been very risky to undertake this fight because of how dishonest the media is when it comes to correctly describing the hat the bill does and doesn’t do. Predictably the left and their media lapdogs are distorting the bill as some sort of homophonic bill that shuts down free speech. Where they and Hollywood can vapidly chant and tweet “Gay Gay Gay” as if they are being defiant to some tyrant. It’s a boogeyman, there is no there there. The days of the legacy media having an outsized influence are long gone. Their role is diminishing and the fact that DeSantis is able to deftly pick his battles and articulate his views presents a threat to the left. This is yet just another attempt of the left trying to tear down DeSantis and they will lose this argument as well just like they did with all the Florida COVID hysterics. DeSantis will cruise to victory in Florida and defeat Crist by anywhere from 5-9 points. Then he will be well-positioned to take on Trump for the GOP presidential primary. Hey dude. Welcome back. You need to post more. 3 hours ago, John Adams said: I'm Deranged Rhino, like every other poster on the board in your mind. And I have no interest in paying you any compliments. You are tied with Big Blitz for the second worst poster here. I wait with bated breath to see who you declare as the worst poster here. 1
Chef Jim Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I’m not the least bit uncomfortable. I’m however amazed that you think your typical grade school teacher has any expertise in these matters. There are people who do….but not teachers. That’s not their core competency. You don’t know that? Or are you just so accustomed to being an internet expert on everything because you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night? Many of the grade school teachers are right out of college. Stick with subjects that will prepare kids for the next level and stop trying to play amateur psychologists. That ***** is real dangerous. 1
Doc Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 4 hours ago, John Adams said: Curious since this thread is mostly a two person 69 between you and BillsTime: Do you perhaps see the point he barely coherently makes that both of these bills set out to create laws that don't really fix a problem? Said another way, since the issue here is almost unknown and unheard of, aren't these bills more for show? The right makes it sound like they are solving a huge issue. "Kids can no longer get irreversible gender surgery" is just red meat but doesn't really fix a problem, does it? Carry on gobbling each other's knobs or otherwise gender-constructed genitals. If it's not a problem, why is the left getting so up-in-arms over it? They're making it sound like they support/it's OK teaching this stuff to 5-8 year olds. 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 12 hours ago, BillStime said: You don’t get it - this bill isn’t about children, parents or teachers - this bill is a clumsy partisan gimmick to appease insecure people like you. This is not a difficult concept. The bill simply seeks to limit what subject matters school districts and teachers can include in their curriculum. There’s nothing odd here. I’m guessing you wouldn’t want a devout Muslim teacher instructing students about their religion? Similarly, as an employer, there are certain topics I’m not supposed to venture into with my employees lest it be branded a hostile work environment. This is nothing for either side to set their hair on fire about. The ‘privacy’ of the public school classroom does NOT give the classroom teacher the freedom to talk about whatever they want with impressionable children….and qualified, trained educators know exactly how to avoid such topics. Relax! 1 1
Beach Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 im headed to sub in elementary PE at noon. should i focus the lesson on exercise or sexual orientation? 1
LeviF Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Beach said: im headed to sub in elementary PE at noon. should i focus the lesson on exercise or sexual orientation? Not elementary school but tangentially relevant. In 1999 it was seen as normal to portray a health teacher explaining to a high school student that porn is not representative of typical sexual relations between adults. And not only that, but to portray a 14 year old as being anxious and confused as a result of viewing pornography. Contrast this with the constant sexualization of minor characters in films and television today, the pushing of books *for children* containing pornographic content in schools, and "sex ed" summer camps for 7 year olds. Where's the fire and brimstone when you need it? 1
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Beach said: im headed to sub in elementary PE at noon. should i focus the lesson on exercise or sexual orientation? Is there a difference? 😂😂😂 1
John Adams Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Chef Jim said: I wait with bated breath to see who you declare as the worst poster here. We all agree that the worst poster is Mr. Cut-and-Paste himself B-Man. And don’t worry, you’re not even top 10. There are only about 20 posters here so there’s no need to feel good about that. I’m definitely in the top 10! 13 hours ago, Doc said: If it's not a problem, why is the left getting so up-in-arms over it? They're making it sound like they support/it's OK teaching this stuff to 5-8 year olds. Do you think this is the pressing issue that the right is making it “Doc?”
Doc Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 57 minutes ago, John Adams said: Do you think this is the pressing issue that the right is making it “Doc?” So the left is up-in-arms because this isn't a pressing issue? Is that what you're saying? Or is that just deflection?
SoCal Deek Posted March 11, 2022 Posted March 11, 2022 58 minutes ago, John Adams said: Do you think this is the pressing issue that the right is making it “Doc?” In what way is it a ‘pressing issue’? They simply authored a piece of legislation. That’s what the legislature does. You should see some of the pressing issues the legislature passes out here in california! Yikes.
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