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 Ilegal breaching of the border equates to an invasion. Why can't wall funding come out of the defense budget? Pull some of the resources out of the middle east as not to increase the defense budget. Bing, bam done. On to the next thing.

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16 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Let's do the same for health care...

 

No s—t. 

 

But let’s see if we can’t help our system too if possible. Maybe that’s a more pressing issue than the dumb wall. Except for Joe in Winslow. No amount of money is too little to spend on the wall for him. 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Since Nancy is living paycheck-to-paycheck, she can totally relate!
 

 

 

Maybe they can illegally be given the inside scoop to get lucrative government contracts, instead of asking their fathers for more money.

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4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Ask spain if border walls work or not.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melilla_border_fence

 

Yeah, that is a small wall to keep the Moroccans out of Spain, but the Moroccan Western Wall  is the second largest in the world, to keep unwanted Muslims out... It's actually a double berm wall, with land mines in between

moroccan-wall-76.jpg?imgmax=1600

 

But hey, walls don't work.... 

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3 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

No s—t. 

 

But let’s see if we can’t help our system too if possible. Maybe that’s a more pressing issue than the dumb wall. Except for Joe in Winslow. No amount of money is too little to spend on the wall for him. 

The federal budget exceeds $4 trillion dollars. What exactly does "help our system” mean to you?  DHS estimated in 2015 there were 12,000,000 unauthorized immigrants in the US. The "official" number has stayed between 10-12 million for the past years, with the acknowledgement from the government that while certain mathematical assumptions are made, they really have no $&$&ing clue. 

 

Recent study by some folks at MIT suggests the number is closer to 22 million, with an estimate the the floor is no lower than 16 million. 

 

I think the time for "but ...." has passed. There is no one solution to this problem, there is plenty of blame to go around and it's time to move forward with some semblance of a plan.  As for "more pressing issues...", that's all in the eye of the beholder.  Every politician involved in this absurd dialogue has spoken passionately about the need to address this crisis, and spoken about it as if it's a crisis at one point or another. I'd argue the victims of violent crime might suggest the issue is pretty pressing, and we can deal with the mating habits of the McCain-Kennedy skunkfish at a later time. 

 

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12 hours ago, BigMcD said:

Hey! You retards get a check from Mexico yet? 

Shhh... They will pay with a trade deal.

 

I am swinging my gates right now, moving 4800 tons of Mexican steel north... Asian carp are swimming alongside the barges as they go through the lock... Gotta a total of 30,000 tons of product in 14 barges queued and waiting as we speak.  Gonna be a busy day for migrant fish!

 

Anyway... The real retard is the dolt for creating a diversion from his scandal riddled Presidency and fighting the "Browning of America" with his racist and immoral agenda so his minority constituents don't lose their grip on power.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Border Patrol Union website had a post saying " A wall would be a waste of tax payer's $$ "...seems like they go back and forth on the issue.....they do mention that a wall or a fence could help, but it does not address the main causes....and focusing on the symptoms....

 

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59v7k3/border-patrol-union-just-deleted-a-webpage-saying-a-wall-would-be-wasting-taxpayer-money

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Iron Maiden said:

 

Border Patrol Union website had a post saying " A wall would be a waste of tax payer's $$ "...seems like they go back and forth on the issue.....they do mention that a wall or a fence could help, but it does not address the main causes....and focusing on the symptoms....

 

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/59v7k3/border-patrol-union-just-deleted-a-webpage-saying-a-wall-would-be-wasting-taxpayer-money

 

 

Far be it for unions to not want jobs eliminated (and dues reduced). Do you think there may be some self serving interests here?

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39 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

The shutdown won't end till Trump declares an emergency.

 

No deal is going to be made here. Both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions, and at this point neither side can abandon their stance. 

 

Nor should the pro-wall people. it needs to be built and utilized as part of a means of shutting off the tap of central american migration.

 

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55 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

The shutdown won't end till Trump declares an emergency.

 

No deal is going to be made here. Both sides are firmly entrenched in their positions, and at this point neither side can abandon their stance. 

Which stance are the dems firmly entrenched in?

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Far be it for unions to not want jobs eliminated (and dues reduced). Do you think there may be some self serving interests here?

 

There's probably some truth in the above....but still made me pause a little....if they think it's not the answer.....and a waste of $$..........They're the one working there on a daily basis.....I put more weight in their comments than politician's....

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