plenzmd1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Is that not what happened? Maybe a good point...I am not sure.. I confess to not knowing the whole story.. but do you really think if trump wanted to do a "fireside chat" type thing facebook would somehow intervene and edit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, BigMcD said: Did yah? Cool. You can babble all you want and think that you are being witty, but you lost this game before it even started. I am an American citizen and you are a Canadian. Do I need to explain it to you any further? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: Maybe a good point...I am not sure.. I confess to not knowing the whole story.. but do you really think if trump wanted to do a "fireside chat" type thing facebook would somehow intervene and edit? Not edit. They would do what they could to make it as difficult as possible for people to find and watch though. Just like how Google messes with the algorithms to make it hard to find coverage (on any story, not just politics or Trump) that doesn't suit their agenda or advertisers agendas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Not edit. They would do what they could to make it as difficult as possible for people to find and watch though. Just like how Google messes with the algorithms to make it hard to find coverage (on any story, not just politics or Trump) that doesn't suit their agenda or advertisers agendas. facebook live is facebook live...can't see how they could hide it or make it hard to find! Fellas, enjoyed the day..off to bed as I contemplate going to the Bill game on Sunday. Feel like I owe the drive to Kyle..decide in the AM! Would love to meet you all at the tailgate..anyone going to the game on Sunday? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 17 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: facebook live is facebook live...can't see how they could hide it or make it hard to find! Fellas, enjoyed the day..off to bed as I contemplate going to the Bill game on Sunday. Feel like I owe the drive to Kyle..decide in the AM! Would love to meet you all at the tailgate..anyone going to the game on Sunday? Trying to get there... Will be a Sunday decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: That's nice and all, but if you're going to accuse me of saying something, quote the ***** post where I actually said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 A Canadian trying to sing in English: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Burton+Cummings+Gordon+Lightfoot+Does+Maggie+May&&view=detail&mid=A63065870022492C7C4DA63065870022492C7C4D&rvsmid=B9F8A5CB40C84C3FD107B9F8A5CB40C84C3FD107&FORM=VDQVAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: You can babble all you want and think that you are being witty, but you lost this game before it even started. I am an American citizen and you are a Canadian. Do I need to explain it to you any further? You are a one trick pony! You must be able to do better than that? Are you in some kind of hospital? Is your helmet too tight? Ring the bell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 7 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: facebook live is facebook live...can't see how they could hide it or make it hard to find! Trump posts on Twitter and the world sees it every time. But if he did a public campaign rally (fireside chat is not going to be his style, let us be real), “the man” would somehow hide it. Hide the president. Zuckerberg would plot with Google to make it impossible for anyone to get the link. Sense is in short supply from the conspiracy gang, but on the upside, their fantasies are an endlessly giving fountain. The real issue is that Trump does explain his impulses. Some people are OK with them and already support them. Some are not. Talking to people about his impulses isn’t going to magically convert his detractors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 8 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Maybe a good point...I am not sure.. I confess to not knowing the whole story.. That's never stopped you before from making up stuff and posting it as facts. So dishonest ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 52 minutes ago, westside said: That's never stopped you before from making up stuff and posting it as facts. So dishonest ? You sound like Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 4 minutes ago, BigMcD said: You sound like Trump. You sound like Trudeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You sound like Trudeau. I don’t like Trudeau, but he’s a good person. Your guy is scum of the earth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: You sound like Trudeau. what's the deal with his eyebrows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Love to bitchslap you dicklickers all day, but the RV is fired up and I’m heading to the game! See yah in a few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, BigMcD said: the RV is fired up and I’m heading to the game! See yah in a few days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: As the old timers here know, when I first started posting down here I used to laugh at the notion of a biased media. And though I would argue what's happening today is different (because it's not a liberal media as much as it as an establishment media), having worked in entertainment and media for a good while now, it's real. Often its organic, meaning the left leaning people flock to journalism/entertainment/media as career paths tend to all come from the same backgrounds (liberal cities/colleges/universities) and live and work in largely liberal cities such as NYC/DC/LA. That tends to produce a natural inclination to write and cover stories a certain way. That happens, I've seen it first hand. It's not necessarily a problem by itself (and I don't know how to begin to change that if it were), but today we are seeing both right wing and left wing media outlets converge to cover this administration the same way. There's no counter balance but for independent media (which comes with its own warts) because it's not a republican or democrat in office. He's neither. He's a threat. Thus, he does not deserve (in the minds of the industry) the same "equal" treatment they would otherwise strive for. Jmo You're spot on, and the folks who come here to suggest you're a conspiracy theorist are often the same ones who espouse the "You're getting all your news from Fox.". Typically, that opinion has been derived from listening to some other person or politician espousing the view that Fox offers a particular slant on on the news. At a minimum, the media does not offer an holistic view of current events. The recent mash up video of news anchors using the same word tracks for the same issues reveals a coordinated, corporate approach to the marketing of "news". I watched an NBC news anchor recently speaking about market volatility take a pregnant pause (Toastmasters 101), and remark "if my memory is correct, the market moved in a similar fashion in 2008 just before....". Certainly possible he's a market guy and closely followed the key economic data just prior to the last big financial crisis, equally likely the team behind the scenes was prepping him on what to say and how to say it. The goal is to look conversational, but it's not. I find the old adages to be as true today as they were a hundred years ago. Nothing happens until someone buys something that someone else is selling. The seller almost always has a plan, a bias, a point of view and it would be foolish to assume otherwise. And you're spot on as well that while the average journalism student may not have a preconceived plan to offer slanted or biased news (one way or the other), there are realities to life. You have to work, you have to eat, and if the company says you write about police brutality because it sells...you do what you have to do. There's a story making the rounds about a hs wrestler who had to cut his hair prior to stepping on the mat, the ref ruling that the length of his hair violated the rules. The outcry over this senseless act of racial bias (the ref white, the wrestler black) was intense, with photos of the ref broadcast on the piece, and the revelation that he used a racial slur directed at another ref a few years ago. The story was woefully lacking in context. The reporter mentioned that the wrestler had previously wrestled without incident, and they showed a clip of him getting his hair lopped off matside. The thing is, there are rules about hair length, hair covering, skin checks, weigh ins etc. It is also a fact that different refs handle things differently, some are detail oriented, some are not. Some are friendly, others not. I can think of a hundred variations of this story where a wrestler could be portrayed as the victim, but the one thing that really bothered me was how this young man ended up mattside getting his hair chopped just before he wrestled. Virtually everything that happened usually happens well before the match so there are no surprises. Turns out this young man was late for weighins/skin check/hair and length of fingernails but that was not included in the initial report. Here's my point--the story implies racial bias and civil rights violations, and it's possible the official targeted the kid. However, context is extremely important as to how this all played out, because the implication was the guy walked up and chopped the kid's hair off for no apparent reason...with his coach standing by not uttering a word of protest. Wrestling coaches tend to be fairly tough guys, why was he silent? To boot, the official drooped a racial slur on another ref a few years back and was allowed to continue working around kids as an official? How big a story is that? It was either lousy reporting by a major network, devoid of context that is easy enough to gather by having a 5 minute conversation with a wrestling coach, or it was deliberately reported in such a way as to portray one victim and one really bad guy. I feel like if you're willing to destroy a persons life, but trim the story for maximum effect, you're reporting what basically amounts to manipulated news. Edited December 30, 2018 by leh-nerd skin-erd 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 #SchumerShutdown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q-baby! Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 10 hours ago, B-Man said: #SchumerShutdown All Canadians as well. Laughing at the losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BigMcD said: All Canadians as well. Laughing at the losers. Oh no, the citizens of a second-rate country are laughing at us. The horror. The pain. The... wait. No one actually cares what Canada thinks. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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