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3 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Is Breitbart less reliable than CNN, MSNPC, etc.? I understand they're openly right-wing, and tend to skew stories accordingly, but is there anything that suggests their factual reporting is false?

He has to get the story from someone who won't print the story.

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56 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Oh no, really? Maybe because those people are being used to help scapegoat immigrants as criminals. Why would they contribute to a smear of immigrants? 

Why do you always leave out the term "illegal" when referring to these immigrants?

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50 minutes ago, njbuff said:

 

Simply a disgusting comment on your part.

 

Let’s see how the fvck you would feel if you lost a loved one to somebody who doesn’t belong in our country.

 

I guess it’s leftists being leftists, who care more about illegal immigrants than their own citizens. 

 

Sickening

I'm all for better border security although I would prefer a solution that bites the problem in the behind before the cross country migration starts. Guard dogs yes, nice shiny wall no, the wall doesn't suffice in my mind.

 

Bad guys inside our borders and outside our borders that mean to do harm to friends and loved one's and it shouldn't reflect on all the good people in the world including immigrants looking for a better life.

 

Something our country does a good job advertising...

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8 minutes ago, Figster said:

I'm all for better border security although I would prefer a solution that bites the problem in the behind before the cross country migration starts. Guard dogs yes, nice shiny wall no, the wall doesn't suffice in my mind.

 

Bad guys inside our borders and outside our borders that mean to do harm to friends and loved one's and it shouldn't reflect on all the good people in the world including immigrants looking for a better life.

 

Something our country does a good job advertising...

My parents and grandparents came to this country from Calabria and Sicily, had to have a job and had to learn English, no one that I know of is against immigration, just do it legally 

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1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Can I independently confirm that major players on the political left haven't contacted angel families?  No, but what I can confirm is that no outlets are reporting that they have, and given that these outlets are friendly to them, it leads me to believe that they haven't given that they are currently taking a beating for not doing so.

the point of the original post stated as fact Pelosi would not meet with these Moms who were outside of her office. Breitbart is the only outlet to report to this story, has not been verified by one other source , and he painted it as fact. 

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

So, you won't believe anything unless it comes from a source that would never print it in the first place?

I don't believe any story that only one outlet prints and not one other will verify..same as the Buzzfeed report about Trump and the Mueller stuff a few weeks back..when yall went nuts .

28 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Actually, it was well documented that no one on the left would acknowledge the murder of the CA police officer by an illegal alien. Not DiFi, nor Harris, nor anyone else on the left, let alone a leftist from CA.

 

Meanwhile, CA has tens of thousands of homeless people on the streets, and Newsome wants to dial up $25M in emergency funds to help asylum seekers.

 

Look. I get it. There's a lot of noise on both sides, but by their very actions, but when it comes to priorities, the left has fellow Americans on the very, very bottom rung. They are a stepping stone to power, and nothing more.

 

again, not on point to the original post. There is no evidence outside of a few right-wing Twitter posts and Breitbart about this story in the OP 

22 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

Is Breitbart less reliable than CNN, MSNPC, etc.? I understand they're openly right-wing, and tend to skew stories accordingly, but is there anything that suggests their factual reporting is false?

Uhmm, yes when the editor of the paper admits to publishing "fake news"

 

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

 

Even if  you take that little admission out...When only one outlet in any story is reporting something..especially with something as explosive as this story would be..you really think Fox opinion hosts and the such would not be all over it? 

 

Yall are scary me on this media stuff..if  I have this straight

 

Pro Trump and his agenda= True

everything else is MSM and fake news

 

Is that right? 

 

And still not one responce form the Trump supporter crowd here about Trump saying his Intel Chiefs were misquoted in a public hearing before Congress, and the reports of what they said were Fake News, and they agreed it was fake news. I may be wrong, but I have not heard one of them pop up and claim that..so who is to be believed?

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6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

And still not one responce form the Trump supporter crowd here about Trump saying his Intel Chiefs were misquoted in a public hearing before Congress, and the reports of what they said were Fake News, and they agreed it was fake news. I may be wrong, but I have not heard one of them pop up and claim that..so who is to be believed?

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Are you really quoting highly placed agents of the Deep State at PPP? 

 

Good luck with that. 

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Just now, bilzfancy said:

My parents and grandparents came to this country from Calabria and Sicily, had to have a job and had to learn English, no one that I know of is against immigration, just do it legally 

I understand

 

 

1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:

 

Would they be equipped with "laser beams"?

No, but equipped with GPS tracking devices and drone surveillance flying above them.

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1 minute ago, Figster said:

 

No, but equipped with GPS tracking devices and drone surveillance flying above them.

 

So how many will they be able to round up and hold at bay at a time?  I mean Christ's sake dude they did a terrible job at Stalag 13

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17 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

So how many will they be able to round up and hold at bay at a time?  I mean Christ's sake dude they did a terrible job at Stalag 13

The dogs would be supported by border patrol providing a mobile, flexible security blanket thats hard to out smart IMO. At a fraction of the price.

 

Awesome reply by the way.

 

 

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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

breibart.breitbart again, Breitbart again, joefromamerica.com, mememerandum.com linking to the Breitbart story..yep, great sources there. Yall ain't really this gullible are you?

plenz, come on. you don't really expect the legacy media, you know the one Trump declared war on, to report anything remotely positive in relation to Trump. or, conversely, against their democratic agenda? they are no longer journalists, they are activists. if you can't see that then you have a severe problem of having been brain(ball)washed.

 

the new media is the peoples media. granted this makes finding the truth somewhat harder but that is what it is. i suggest doing your own research outside of the legacy media and when applicable, go directly to the source and form your own judgments.

 

to help you on this, #angelmoms, read what they have to say for themselves and get back to me, k?

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26 minutes ago, Figster said:

The dogs would be supported by border patrol providing a mobile, flexible security blanket thats hard to out smart IMO. At a fraction of the price.

 

Awesome reply by the way.

 

 

The federal government just put an order in for 5.7 billion dollars worth of Kibbles & Bits.

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5 minutes ago, Foxx said:

plenz, come on. you don't really expect the legacy media, you know the one Trump declared war on, to report anything remotely positive in relation to Trump. or, conversely, against their democratic agenda? they are no longer journalists, they are activists. if you can't see that then you have a severe problem of having been brain(ball)washed.

 

the new media is the peoples media. granted this makes finding the truth somewhat harder but that is what it is. i suggest doing your own research outside of the legacy media and when applicable, go directly to the source and form your own judgments.

 

to help you on this, #angelmoms, read what they have to say for themselves and get back to me, k?

 

The WSJ does OK. Economist too. Maybe a few others but none of the cable networks are worth watching unless there's some breaking news story...and not the BREAKING NEWS chirons, but actual breaking news as in the kind that happens once every 3 years.

 

For certain exposes, WaPo, NYT, and Washington Times write some good things. 

 

But as the old print media had to transition to competing with the cable news and Internet eyeballs and attention spans, they've gone for sensational over harder and more boring facts. The NYT took the biggest plunge. It was always left-biased but now it's flat embarassing and you have to dig around to find the good stuff, which is still in there on occasion. Perhaps the worst thing to happen to media outlets is the story about Twitter reactions to news...like that's news. Gaaaaaaaaaah!! 

 

Twitter reporting is so dubious. It's mostly just echo chambers. 

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

And still not one responce form the Trump supporter crowd here about Trump saying his Intel Chiefs were misquoted in a public hearing before Congress, and the reports of what they said were Fake News, and they agreed it was fake news. I may be wrong, but I have not heard one of them pop up and claim that..so who is to be believed?

 

I posted the full hearing in the DS thread. It's very clear they were misquoted and taken out of context if you watch the 2+ hours for yourself. 
 

The problem is, no one takes the time to do that. Especially if you've (the general "you" not specific you) already decided that Trump is Satan and Hitler's off spring. 

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

Uhmm, yes when the editor of the paper admits to publishing "fake news"

 

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/breitbart-fake-news-alex-marlow/

 

Even if  you take that little admission out...When only one outlet in any story is reporting something..especially with something as explosive as this story would be..you really think Fox opinion hosts and the such would not be all over it? 

 

Yall are scary me on this media stuff..if  I have this straight

 

Pro Trump and his agenda= True

everything else is MSM and fake news

 

Is that right? 

 

And still not one responce form the Trump supporter crowd here about Trump saying his Intel Chiefs were misquoted in a public hearing before Congress, and the reports of what they said were Fake News, and they agreed it was fake news. I may be wrong, but I have not heard one of them pop up and claim that..so who is to be believed?

I'm not holding Breitbart up as an unvarnished bastian of objective truth, and even noted that they have a clear bias, but I don't see any evidence of them reporting blatant falsehoods or being less reliable than most other "news" outlets.

 

Ironically, the article you linked is fake news. All I had to do was read it & the cited articles to see that. The only objective facts alleged were that Bannon pushed for heavy coverage of Roy Moore and said the msm was trying to tank Trump. Everything else was conjecture and there were no quotes or citations to support the headline.

 

Interestingly, all the cited articles were from CNN.

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2 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

Simply a disgusting comment on your part.

 

Let’s see how the fvck you would feel if you lost a loved one to somebody who doesn’t belong in our country.

 

I guess it’s leftists being leftists, who care more about illegal immigrants than their own citizens. 

 

Sickening

But scapegoating immigrants doesn't disgust you? Immigrants commit less crime than Native born residents. Maybe the Democrats should invite the Trump supporter that sent bombs to people through the mail, to, you know, show what criminals Trump supporters are. Eat sh it 

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5 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

But scapegoating immigrants doesn't disgust you? Immigrants commit less crime than Native born residents. Maybe the Democrats should invite the Trump supporter that sent bombs to people through the mail, to, you know, show what criminals Trump supporters are. Eat sh it 

you are completely and entirely off your rocker, Tibs.

 

what in the *****ity ***** does the rate at which Americans commit crimes have to do with the rate of crimes committed by people who have absolutely no legal right to be in this country in the first place?

 

has your mind atrophied that much from the progressive poisoning?

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