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8 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

That was at a time when the Dem position was against illegal immigration because it hurt many union workers and depressed wages for many traditional Dem voters.  The big prize for Dems now comes in the form of millions of Dem voters who are the offspring of illegal immigrants or illegal immigrants themselves who Dems feel will be given citizenship at some point.  Dems have come too far on this to turn back now.  The dreams of turning states like Texas and Arizona blue and obtaining a near electoral lock are getting closer to coming true.   Now that Trump won, few Dems are going to support border security and any legislation that restricts immigration.  It's a power play pure and simple and these are sick individuals in Washington pulling these strings.   

What's really the motivating factor although your right wing conspiracy was interesting to read.

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15 hours ago, Figster said:

I really like the Panama-style canal idea, ambitious as it may be, you can do allot of things with water. Land owners might be more attracted to the idea vs a steel wall. 

 

and its something Mexico might actually help fund IMO.

The border will eventually be gone period. It's the course of history

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

I especially like the part when he called both Pelosi and Schumer disingenuous attentionwhores out for partisan political advantage. He nailed it.

You mean the winners? 

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15 hours ago, Figster said:

I really like the Panama-style canal idea, ambitious as it may be, you can do allot of things with water. Land owners might be more attracted to the idea vs a steel wall. 

 

and its something Mexico might actually help fund IMO.

Just think, we might be able charge for amusement park rides down the mountains. Maybe even make a little money by taking their pictures as they splash down.

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

 

Whatever polling perch Nancy stood upon before the shutdown was artificially tall.  Her comments during the shutdown were simply a reminder of what a witch she is.  Her hiatus from the speakership was an insulator.  She's not done dropping yet, for every time she speaks she'll further erode the weak public support she has.  She's just bad for the country. 

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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

Just think, we might be able charge for amusement park rides down the mountains. Maybe even make a little money by taking their pictures as they splash down.

Canal idea is contingent to where it would be applicable. Without surveying the border and providing the left with a sound plan of action the idea of a wall or anything else shouldn't fly with anyone IMO.

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25 minutes ago, Figster said:

Canal idea is contingent to where it would be applicable. Without surveying the border and providing the left with a sound plan of action the idea of a wall or anything else shouldn't fly with anyone IMO.

There are plans already available to the lawmakers.

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52 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

There are plans already available to the lawmakers.

How about plans available to the general public that show where the walls will be built, or why they will work and for how long.

 

Saying plans are available to the lawmakers means nothing to me.

 

Myself personally, Trump needs to change his tactics and hit the left where it will really hurt.  Are any of us really that upset about people just like you or I trying to find a better way of life. I don't think so. Helping people is what we do, its what our great nation has always done. We have enough land and the natural resources to grow IMO. A settlement for immigrants to go somewhere in the US perhaps thats close to the border.

 

reverse psychology...

 

Trump could hit a home run with the right move...

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2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

The border will eventually be gone period. It's the course of history

You mean the winners? 

 

2 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Borders are an economic drag. Bottle necks to progress 

 

Wait, are you quoting Stalin, or Hitler?

 

 

 

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