We need an in the box safety

[boyst]

With the current NFL favoring the pass more and more and our run defense being the weaker link of an otherwise good defense I really see the biggest need for our defense to be an in the box safety to replace Alexander on passing downs playing in packages.  Lorax isn't fast enough anymore to make the coverage schemes we need, and Edmunds is not aware enough to play behind him at the position.  I do not know who in the NFL would fill this need for us anymore but it's hard to imagine a rookie we'd be able to snag in the later round, since it is a lower priority, being able to fill this need.  Safety is a tremendously tough position for a rookie to come in and succeed so perhaps a hybrid LB that can play similar to what George Wilson once did is ideal.

 

Of course, our biggest need is DL and pressure upon the QB but this position would be a tremendous addition to our defense.

 

I wonder if @thebandit27 or any other of these well versed guys have any ideas who could work for us.

 

edit: this is not to say we don't have sufficient quality in Poyer and Hyde - this is more to better design the package for success when playing nickel and dime having a 3rd in the box safety on the field.  we are not very diverse or adaptive on defense.

Edited December 11, 2018 by Boyst62

[oldmanfan]

Siran Neal?

[BringBackFergy]

Kind of like an Alvin Dupree (Steelers)? That guy makes plays. Yes, I see your point. 

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Siran Neal?

is an option - reminds me of an A-aron Williams lacking a few traits that made Williams more successful than I believe Neal is possible of attaining.

 

The upside would be him fitting in this role since he was a linebacker in college and maybe he can grow but at 6' 206 lbs. he's a little light for this opportunity.

[Stank_Nasty]

I mean..... they’re 10th in rush yds allowed. 

 

I guess it could only help though. 

[boyst]

1 minute ago, BringBackFergy said:

Kind of like an Alvin Dupree (Steelers)? That guy makes plays. Yes, I see your point. 

Steelers play a 34, in a 43 dupree could become this.  dude doesn't look his size but he's 6'4 270 running a run 4.6 40.

[MrEpsYtown]

I think they are trying to do this with Raphael Bush. You could try to sign a guy like Deonte Buccanon, who is a free agent. Another idea, outside the box a bit, sign Landon Collins and move Micah Hyde to corner. 

Edited December 11, 2018 by MrEpsYtown

[BillsfaninChicago]

What about Ko Simpson? He is worth millions after all!

[Bob in STL]

Safety is the least of our problems.  

 

A #2 CB, depth at LB, more pass rush, Four offensive lineman, 3 Receivers, 2 tight ends, 3 running backs, a franchise QB .... then safety. 

[boyst]

3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Safety is the least of our problems.  

 

A #2 CB, depth at LB, more pass rush, Four offensive lineman, 3 Receivers, 2 tight ends, 3 running backs, a franchise QB .... then safety. 

Agreed its a small problem but I think it's a very easy option to fill by finding a guy who can contribute and fill in more easily than trying to find a #2CB or depth at LB, or edge.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Neal is that. And even Bush is pretty physical for a little guy. We need to stop rushing 4 and start making QBs uncomfortable 

[Augie]

.....add it to the list. 

[peterpan]

Taron Johnson was kinda in this roe. 

[Teddy KGB]

OL 

WR 

TE 

WR 

WR 

 

 Who needs a safety 

[ProcessTruster]

8 hours ago, Teddy KGB said:

OL 

WR 

TE 

WR 

WR 

 

 Who needs a safety 

Hard to imagine McBeanes not going all offense this offseason.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1.  Safety in the box.

 

2.  Jack in the box

 

3.  Charlie in the box.  Because nobody wants a Charlie in the box.

[Pbomb]

21 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

Hard to imagine McBeanes not going all offense this offseason.  

I think they definitely concentrate on it but could see our first pick being d line

[Gugny]

12 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

1.  Safety in the box.

 

2.  Jack in the box

 

3.  Charlie in the box.  Because nobody wants a Charlie in the box.

 

4.

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, Gugny said:

 

4.

 

 

Watch it, bub.  With that avatar of yours, I could probably get Pixar to work you into the original Rankin-Bass production, and we'll be talking about nobody wanting a 'Gugny in the box'.  ?

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[freddyjj]

12 hours ago, Boyst62 said:

With the current NFL favoring the pass more and more and our run defense being the weaker link of an otherwise good defense I really see the biggest need for our defense to be an in the box safety to replace Alexander on passing downs playing in packages.  Lorax isn't fast enough anymore to make the coverage schemes we need, and Edmunds is not aware enough to play behind him at the position.  I do not know who in the NFL would fill this need for us anymore but it's hard to imagine a rookie we'd be able to snag in the later round, since it is a lower priority, being able to fill this need.  Safety is a tremendously tough position for a rookie to come in and succeed so perhaps a hybrid LB that can play similar to what George Wilson once did is ideal.

 

Of course, our biggest need is DL and pressure upon the QB but this position would be a tremendous addition to our defense.

 

I wonder if @thebandit27 or any other of these well versed guys have any ideas who could work for us.

 

edit: this is not to say we don't have sufficient quality in Poyer and Hyde - this is more to better design the package for success when playing nickel and dime having a 3rd in the box safety on the field.  we are not very diverse or adaptive on defense.

I am confused.  In our nickel package Zo plays on the DLine as an end or DT and rushes passer.  Bills nickel Scheme has Taron Johnson as nickel DB who subs for SAM.  Bush and Neal do as well.  the scheme also brings Poyert or Hyde down in box based on formation of offense.

 

Don't see this as a need.  Maybe a backup for Milano - low priority.