Roundybout Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 The almighty Rams offense held to 6 points by an unreal Bears defense. The unstoppable Chiefs offense taken to overtime by an extraordinary Ravens defense. The exquisite Saints offense stuffed by the surprising Cowboys defense. Maybe reports of the death of defenses were exaggerated, and maybe a defensive-minded coach can succeed. 1 1
Bangarang Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. 4 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Don’t forget that vaunted Philadelphia offense leaving a steamer in the bed
Roundybout Posted December 10, 2018 Author Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. Having some semblance of offense is good too 1
Bangarang Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Having some semblance of offense is good too Id much rather have a great offense and some semblance of a defense.
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. I think it is more about balance.....we literally cannot run the ball
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I think it is more about balance.....we literally cannot run the ball Shady is done. Like an over cooked chicken.
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Shady is done. Like an over cooked chicken. Ivory and Murphy didnt exactly light it up today either......its the OL...its just plain bad 1
BillsVet Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 When the rules revert back to what they were in the 80s, yes, perhaps defense can be king. But it's not going to happen. I always love how one weekend's worth of games morphs into the definitive evidence that defense is back...yet nothing really changed The league is built for, over the long haul of an entire season, offense to win out far more often than it loses.
cgg716 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 The real question is what is sustainable as opposed to outliers. Keep in mind that the Ravens have lost to the Browns this season. The cowboys lost a home game to the Titans. And the Bears, the best of these 3 teams, lost while giving up 31 to Brock Osweiler. Defense doesn't always travel and these teams that score blow out the bad teams. Ensuring home playoff games. Its the equivalent of trying to win a world series with home runs and no pitching, so much needs to break right to even have a chance, like laughable calls in favor of Dallas in each game. Your margin for error is razor thin, are their examples, sure, can they win, likely not, is it the most expideint course, absolutely not
Big Gun Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: Having some semblance of offense is good too 64 points scored last 3 games since bye. Should have been enough to be 3-0 against 3 bad teams Record 1-2 vs 3-8 Jags W, 5-6 Fins L, 3-9 Jets L Our top 2 defense should be wrecking these guys (Bortles, Tannesuck and rookie Darnold) like the Bears did last night to Rams, or the Cowboys did to Saints, such an overrated defense here. Edited December 10, 2018 by pop gun
CaptnCoke11 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Games like this happen every once in a while.. And then these threads are soon to follow.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. 20 th in points allowed. That’s the only defensive ranking that matters. Bears raven and cowboys are 1,2 and 3by the way. Yards are irrelevant.
row_33 Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. Jets shredded that GOAT DVOA superking D twice when it mattered yesterday
WhoTom Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 The thread title says it all: It's just a few games.
BringBackOrton Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. The number 3 defense is 9-4.
HomeskillitMoorman Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 10 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The almighty Rams offense held to 6 points by an unreal Bears defense. The unstoppable Chiefs offense taken to overtime by an extraordinary Ravens defense. The exquisite Saints offense stuffed by the surprising Cowboys defense. Maybe reports of the death of defenses were exaggerated, and maybe a defensive-minded coach can succeed. This whole thing is taken so incredibly far out of context. What myself and people had been saying before we drafted Allen is it's great to have an awesome defense...but it's not sustainable for long-term success if that's what you're building around without a franchise QB. It's incredibly tough to keep an elite defense for a prolonged amount of time, sometimes it doesn't even last more than a couple of years. On the other hand...having a franchise QB can make you a perennial force. It is way easier to build a SB contending team long-term than it is if you build around a defense. The Bears window with the defense is probably a couple of seasons, but they're going to start losing players. At that point when their defense comes down a level, they're going to have to depend on Trubisky or whoever the QB is to be running a pretty competent offense to compliment what will still probably be a good, but not great unit anymore. There isn't a death of defenses...they just offer you a much smaller window than if you have a great offense led by a star QB. McDermott's problem isn't that he's a defensive minded coach...it's that he's a horrific game manager and is way too conservative. He coaches to keep it close, not to win.
T master Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Bangarang said: We have the 2nd ranked defense. We are 4-9. Defense is not still king. ST's & a Offense that can stay on the field helps immensely !! Saying that D doesn't win championships is like saying having a good running game doesn't mean anything in winning a championship !! The last 2 SB champs have had really good RB's to take the pressure off the QB but according to the experts good RB's are a dime a dozen & a run game isn't that important !! It takes all 3 phases of the team to win if your lacking in one place a good coach will find that weakness !!
Joeziehmer Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 Throw the damn towel! Benchthe starters and send in the scrubs on offense and defense!
Mr. WEO Posted December 10, 2018 Posted December 10, 2018 11 hours ago, BillsEnthusiast said: The almighty Rams offense held to 6 points by an unreal Bears defense. The unstoppable Chiefs offense taken to overtime by an extraordinary Ravens defense. The exquisite Saints offense stuffed by the surprising Cowboys defense. Maybe reports of the death of defenses were exaggerated, and maybe a defensive-minded coach can succeed. That the Almighty Bears D that coughed up 30 to the Giants last week? And the extraordinary Ravens D gave up 377 yards passing (Tyreek Hill destroyed that secondary for 139 at 17.4 per) and 30 1st downs. And it was the KC that wrapped that game up in OT.
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