YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hmm daboll.... well he did take one of the worst QB draft prospects of all time and turn him into the PFF QB of the week in just a few months ?♂️ Trust me, I give Daboll the benefit of the doubt for this year. Stats are like hostages, they will tell you whatever you want them to tell you depending on how you want to spin them. But he’s had to deal with FOUR different starting QBs, 2 of which were there one week, one a rawest of raw rookie and one was Peterman! With suspect talent everywhere. He’s certainly put in the work and I’m looking forward to year 2 to get a better idea of his aptitude as an OC. Hopefully it will be more stable at QB and he will have more to work with talent wise. Edited December 7, 2018 by YoloinOhio 4
Domdab99 Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 Unless the Bills score 50 points every game this month, there's no way a team is going to look at an OC from the 2nd or 3rd worst offense in the league for their HC position. 1
billsredneck1 Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 i skipped ahead here cause i think it's b.s. marrone was just forced to turtle and can hackett. i refuse to believe he thought hackett was the source of all the jags ills. there's no way they bring in another hackett.....not to mention they don't have a qb going forward. nothing to see here... if they come up with a solid plan for qb, maybe marrone stays, idk.
K-9 Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Trust me, I give Daboll the benefit of the doubt for this year. Stats are like hostages, they will tell you whatever you want them to tell you depending on how you want to spin them. But he’s had to deal with FOUR different starting QBs, 2 of which were there one week, one a rawest of raw rookie and one was Peterman! With suspect talent everywhere. He’s certainly put in the work and I’m looking forward to year 2 to get a better idea of his aptitude as an OC. Hopefully it will be more stable at QB and he will have more to work with talent wise. Yep. Lies, damned lies, and statistics as the old saying goes.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Trust me, I give Daboll the benefit of the doubt for this year. Stats are like hostages, they will tell you whatever you want them to tell you depending on how you want to spin them. But he’s had to deal with FOUR different starting QBs, 2 of which were there one week, one a rawest of raw rookie and one was Peterman! With suspect talent everywhere. He’s certainly put in the work and I’m looking forward to year 2 to get a better idea of his aptitude as an OC. Hopefully it will be more stable at QB and he will have more to work with talent wise. Sometimes I get so sarcastic I lose my bearings. If im Daboll’s agent I say “took draft trash and turned it to treasure.” in reality... I have not formed an opinion. I like how the offense has evolved over this season, very deliberately. I’m not sure if the primary contributor was Josh growing, Daboll adapting... a mix... dunno. Run schemes seem less coordinated. Passing game is light years ahead (again QB situation Was very different) I know some Alabama diehards that didn’t hate him leaving. I belive the pats didn’t miss a beat without him. In the end I like what I’m seeing but don’t see what he’s done to earn the next tier. but the trend is to grab young less experienced offensive guys to run the show. If he interviews well it could do the trick. But I’d like him around for another year.
BigDingus Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 19 hours ago, jr1 said: he'll try this with Fournette LOL yeah... glad Tecmo doesn't make football games anymore. That was hilarious though, just imagining someone doing that in a real game with linemen & DB's jumping at him all over the field made me laugh quite a bit
atlbillsfan1975 Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 Marrone’s personality isn’t very endearing. I just don’t see guys rallying around him. Marrone has always seemed like the guy to pass the buck on someone else. When Marrone is out of options to blame others he quits or gets fired. I feel bad for Caldwell. Very good guy with tons of football knowledge. Ultimately his success came down to picking Bortles and then extending him. Bortles seems like a nice guy who is a very average quarterback on a good day.
Just Joshin' Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 On 12/7/2018 at 9:44 AM, MrEpsYtown said: Marrone is going to the Jets I think. I think he wants out of Jacksonville and wants to go be with his boy Mike Maccagnan. They Jets hired their coach and GM separately, which obviously is dumb. I believe that Marrone is the guy Mike Maccagnan wants to be his head coach. If Marrone isn't fired he will probably quit anyway to go to the Jets. I believe the Jets will go with an offensive guru, not an O line coach.
LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 You've also got to consider that with Daboll's history of success as an OC, he'll probably have his choice of gigs. Kind of like Gregg Williams. Who's to say he wants the Jags job? He's probably gonna demand 10 mil/year and only with Green Bay. 2
PIZ Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 If Caldwell would ever get fired, he'd be the kind of guy Beane would bring in for his staff. I hope Daboll stays. His teaching is finally starting to show with Allen.
MrEpsYtown Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I believe the Jets will go with an offensive guru, not an O line coach. I think the Jets will only hire a guy with previous head coaching experience and Marrone still has a positive reputation in terms of offense because he was Sean Payton's offensive coordinator that one time. I don't think his reputation has taken a hit at all because Bortles is the scapegoat. They will not hire another nice guy players' coach like Bowles. They will hire an ***** like Marrone.
C.Biscuit97 Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, LSHMEAB said: You've also got to consider that with Daboll's history of success as an OC, he'll probably have his choice of gigs. Kind of like Gregg Williams. Who's to say he wants the Jags job? He's probably gonna demand 10 mil/year and only with Green Bay. Sources are saying that after the Bills put 17 points on the 29th ranked Miami defense, discussions are being held in Foxboro for Daboll to replace Belichick. man, Daboll has some amazing power that people ignore his resume. He can’t be worse than Rick Dennison! 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 ....my usual uninformed, typical dumbazz question, but I will ask anyway........what exactly has Daboll shown over his career that he is NOW instantaneous HC material?..........
eanyills Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 Albright has sources like any connected media guy but all he’s doing here is making an educated guess. I wouldn’t put much stock into this or praise him for “calling” Allen to the Bills. I mean, it’s widely believed that there was a QB above Allen on the Bills board so if that’s right and Albright called Allen before the draft, he wasn’t necessarily correct in his assumption.
reddogblitz Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 My response is the same as to the Packers rumor in another thread. Sounds like a great idea. I hope they do it. 1
LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2018 Posted December 8, 2018 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Sources are saying that after the Bills put 17 points on the 29th ranked Miami defense, discussions are being held in Foxboro for Daboll to replace Belichick. man, Daboll has some amazing power that people ignore his resume. He can’t be worse than Rick Dennison! The Patriots have reportedly offered the Bills Belichick plus 3 first round picks in exchange for Brian Daboll, but Beane is playing hardball. 1
YoloinOhio Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 20 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: You've also got to consider that with Daboll's history of success as an OC, he'll probably have his choice of gigs. Kind of like Gregg Williams. Who's to say he wants the Jags job? He's probably gonna demand 10 mil/year and only with Green Bay. Has Gregg turned down the offer to host the Oscars yet?
NoSaint Posted December 9, 2018 Posted December 9, 2018 18 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ....my usual uninformed, typical dumbazz question, but I will ask anyway........what exactly has Daboll shown over his career that he is NOW instantaneous HC material?.......... I think you are likely overstating what his current status is. Someone could have him on their list but that doesn’t mean he’s suddenly the hot name out there also- offense. Anyone with any offensive success shoots up lists. That’s why some of us argue that you snag the offensive mind as HC and then you can get a great and steady dc
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