Da webster guy Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 One year deals are easy peasy. Throw some incentives in there and of course you keep the guy. He's got Jerry Hughes disruptiveness, but without the pyschopathic gene. LB's that can rush, cover AND tackle are gold. There is zero chance the Bills let him go, it's not like we're deep at LB anyway. Was this a rhetorical question post? Yeah, I fell for it..... He reminds me of Fred Jackson, who still had himself in great shape and was a huge team asset late in his career. (you know, until Whaley felt that Booby Dixon was a better call)
MrEpsYtown Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) I know many people want to upgrade here, but does everyone realize that Lorax is the 2 down SAM backer? Half the time, when we actually have three linebackers in the game we are in an under look where Lorax is playing on the line. The majority of his playing time comes as a pass rusher in the nickel. Yes it makes sense to get younger and more athletic, but we are not often in base 4-3 looks. Lorax has played very little off ball SAM this year. Edited December 6, 2018 by MrEpsYtown 1 1
ColoradoBills Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 41 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I know many people want to upgrade here, but does everyone realize that Lorax is the 2 down SAM backer? Half the time, when we actually have three linebackers in the game we are in an under look where Lorax is playing on the line. The majority of his playing time comes as a pass rusher in the nickel. Yes it makes sense to get younger and more athletic, but we are not often in base 4-3 looks. Lorax has played very little off ball SAM this year. Good points. Signing Lorax for another year would be smart. No sense opening up another need when there already so many others. They can draft his replacement in 2020. 1
BmarvB Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 He's got another year or two left in him. Definitely sign him up
SoCal Deek Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 Did someone say the Bills were looking to dump him?
YoloinOhio Posted December 6, 2018 Author Posted December 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Did someone say the Bills were looking to dump him? His contract is up
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I love Lorax. Additionally, what a great time for us to be in "rent a player" situations. In other words, given the room we have we can make decent offers to players who are on short term deals. Lorax at 3.5 as was suggested earlier and if he has room in the tank...great. If Williams wants to come back on a limited basis...him too!
blacklabel Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 I'm pretty sure Lorenzo and Kyle have jobs here for as long as they want. If either guy wants to keep playing, all they gotta do is say the word and I'm sure McBeane would draw up a new contract.
Misterbluesky Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 7 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: UFA this year, age 35 He can't keep up with a FB in pass coverage (Jacksonville game for example),that's a problem.He's a stud of a family man,plays wise and conservative but he's getting the dreaded "piano feet".... a fan favorite for sure...but he will not be a starter here,next year.No way...depth,locker room leadership is a given though..3-3.5 for one more year which will probably be a courtesy move by the "Beane Counter".just my two cents worth of jibber jabber....
nedboy7 Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 No do not sign him. We do not need dominant savvy veteran leader players.
fmr60 Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: UFA this year, age 35 YES!!!!!
without a drought Posted December 6, 2018 Posted December 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: No do not sign him. We do not need dominant savvy veteran leader players. They sound a bit anti-process. Trying to stand out in a crowd with good play and strong leadership.
YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 He’s on WGR right now and they asked him if Edmunds could be his son and then he said yes because his daughter is 23. Then clarified she is his step-daughter. That makes more sense!
FeelingOnYouboty Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 Aye man I really just want him and Kyle Williams around this team. We still need their leadership next year and they can still play a big part.
Stank_Nasty Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, LSHMEAB said: NOOOO! He's eating up a roster spot that could be had by a younger, more athletic player. If he can be had for vet minimum, I wouldn't hate it. The main thing this defense is lacking is another edge rusher opposite Hughes. We need a younger, more athletic version of Lorax. I think that'll help us out quite a bit in the RZ, where the D has struggled mightily. I'm over Lorax the football player. He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH Edited December 7, 2018 by Stank_Nasty 1
YoloinOhio Posted December 7, 2018 Author Posted December 7, 2018 In his interview this AM, he said he hasn’t decided if he will play next year but will decide with his family on the offseason. He said if he decides to play he hopes that he and the Bills can come to an agreeement and he can retire here. 1
Bing Bong Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Stank_Nasty said: He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH He's a fantastic rotational guy on a cheap vet contract. If someone comes in and outperforms him that's exactly what we want. Until then he's set a high bar (and that's not a bad thing!)
Saxum Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 10:48 AM, RyanC883 said: good point. If not, I could see him being an announcer. Would be nice to have a defensive guy in the broadcast booth. Most seem to be offensive guys lately. And it would be nice to have an announcer who played special teams. I would not be surprised to see him be snapper if long snapper was hurt.
LSHMEAB Posted December 7, 2018 Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Stank_Nasty said: He’s having arguably his best year all around year as a cog in a solid unit and you over him as a player..... I agree we obviously need to be thinking about a replacement immediately due to his age..... But WOW, the things people say on here. SMH Fair enough. The numbers refute my take on Lorax and I always defer to numbers. That being said, the lack of a dynamic edge athlete is preventing this defense from making the jump from good to elite. Too many TD's in the RZ. Get a freak athlete coming off the edge and I believe that works itself out. Does anyone have a better idea as to how to fix the awful RZ defense? Love to hear it. Edited December 7, 2018 by LSHMEAB
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