NakedSquid Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Serious question, why is the punter the holder? I thought it should always be the back up QB or a gadget player. That would provide more options for a fake or bad snap. 1
buffalobillswin Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Nope it's the punter for all teams in real life. You are thinking of Madden where the holder is the backup QB 1
NakedSquid Posted December 4, 2018 Author Posted December 4, 2018 Huh Madden has the right of it. But why the punter? It's not a rule Ok found this explanation by BILL B https://www.google.com/amp/www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2013/09/football_nerd_alert_bill_belichick_explains_history_of_using%3famp 1
BillsInWilmingtonNC Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Can't have your backup QB practicing holding the ball for the kicker all through practice while the offense is practicing, and have him never get to throw or run plays. Much more valuable to have your backup QB up to speed on the offense, than to be able to run a gadget play once a year with them. Makes the most sense time-wise.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Probably because during practice the punter is the one other guy besides the kicker and the long snapper with nothing else to do, so have him hold. Agreed using backup QB would give more options but for the couple times a year in may come into play, probably teams don't feel it's worth it. For years wasn't Frank Reich the holder? 2
row_33 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, buffalobillswin said: Nope it's the punter for all teams in real life. You are thinking of Madden where the holder is the backup QB not at all, I've watched games recently where it's the backup QB out there, as stated by the announcers (beware of 100% dogmatic always/has to be statements in life) 1
jr1 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Romo and others have been holders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holder_(gridiron_football)#Backup_quarterback
Da webster guy Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 I've wondered that too, but it seems there are very very few bobbled snaps by the NFL holders, and punters are used to looking the ball in and catching bullet snaps. As an aside, we must have set an NFL record with three different punters and four different qb's in the same season. 1
Roch Jim Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Back in the day, Frank Reich was the holder. I remember this as a discussion point during the comeback game, as Houston had their punter as the holder, and when he bobbled the snap, he spazzed and Houston lost a FG opportunity. The announcer commented that Frank Reich, as Bills holder, had better hands, and also better ability to react to a busted play. Normally, the punter makes sense, as he and the kicker have more practice time together. However, with our unprecedented turnover at punter this year (4!!!), maybe having the stability of a backup QB would be better....uh based on how we've handled the backup QB position this year, never mind. 1
zow2 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 I just assumed it was because A) at this level, a punter probably has super hand/eye coordination and is used to catching the snap and B) the punter has the time in practice to handle this duty 1
Augie Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Are they just keeping all the odd balls in one place so they can keep an eye on them? ? I get the backup QB gives options, but the point was made they need to be more with the offense. The punter is used to catching long snaps, he’s just doing it with different hand placement.
GoBills808 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Augie said: Are they just keeping all the odd balls in one place so they can keep an eye on them? ? I get the backup QB gives options, but the point was made they need to be more with the offense. The punter is used to catching long snaps, he’s just doing it with different hand placement. ?This is always what crosses my mind, FG units are like the Island of Misfit Toys 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Reich was money as the backup QB and the holder for Christie on this day...classic images! 3
zow2 Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Love ya Scottie but why couldn't Christie be the one kicking that 47 yd FG on that fateful Jan. 1991 night in Tampa when i was sitting at the 50 yard line?!?!?!? Ok, sorry,,, that pic took me back.
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Probably because during practice the punter is the one other guy besides the kicker and the long snapper with nothing else to do, so have him hold. Agreed using backup QB would give more options but for the couple times a year in may come into play, probably teams don't feel it's worth it. For years wasn't Frank Reich the holder? yes, he was.
Royale with Cheese Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Tony Romo as the starting QB was the holder for the Cowboys. 3
Mrbojanglezs Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 For some reason I remember Gibran Hamdan (3rd string QB for few years) being the holder, but I'm not 100%.
buffalobillswin Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 45 minutes ago, row_33 said: not at all, I've watched games recently where it's the backup QB out there, as stated by the announcers (beware of 100% dogmatic always/has to be statements in life) I'd love an example
Saxum Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, NakedSquid said: Serious question, why is the punter the holder? I thought it should always be the back up QB or a gadget player. That would provide more options for a fake or bad snap. Our best gadget player on FGs was our punter Moorman; he was a hurdler and made a number of good plays on fakes.
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