MPT Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 6:58 PM, row_33 said: quick survey shows fans of all 32 teams are convinced their D is held on every single play Expand When you see an offensive tackle get beat to the outside and extend his arm outside his shoulders to wrap up the defender, it's almost always called holding. It's rarely called when it's Hughes. If you watch for that kind of play, you'll see that he gets around the edge better than almost all pass rushers but he's always fighting that extended arm up in his shoulders / neck area. 1
TPS Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 Given Jerry's reputation with the refs and lack of calls, I wouldn't be surprised LTs know they can be overly aggressive with holding him. Dude is a marked man...
chaccof Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 6:15 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said: For a Bills employee to instruct Hughes to deny an encounter in a locale likely to video recorded, would be a dumb thing to do. Expand couldn't agree more.
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) On 12/3/2018 at 9:19 PM, MPT said: When you see an offensive tackle get beat to the outside and extend his arm outside his shoulders to wrap up the defender, it's almost always called holding. It's rarely called when it's Hughes. If you watch for that kind of play, you'll see that he gets around the edge better than almost all pass rushers but he's always fighting that extended arm up in his shoulders / neck area. Expand holding is not Hughes being neutralized and he quits on the play... Edited December 3, 2018 by row_33
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 ...Goodell's Kangaroo Court cometh, so Jerry backed off a bit post game......and they'll ignore Ellison's previous indiscretion......
Boca BIlls Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 9:23 PM, Dadonkadonk said: This is bad. Could be a suspension. Expand ***** that ref, fire his ass.
row_33 Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 since around 1980 I always went with holding only being called if the O-lineman is clearly beaten and he has to confront the side or back of the pass rusher and don't feel they've missed much since 1980 if holding means the Bills didn't get a sack, then you can rethink your views
Boca BIlls Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 9:44 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Expand ***** that piece of ***** ref. Fire his ass.
MPT Posted December 3, 2018 Posted December 3, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 10:28 PM, row_33 said: holding is not Hughes being neutralized and he quits on the play... Expand Do you have any evidence of Hughes quitting on plays? That's a pretty outlandish claim considering how many QB pressures he gets. 1
boyst Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 11:12 PM, MPT said: Do you have any evidence of Hughes quitting on plays? That's a pretty outlandish claim considering how many QB pressures he gets. Expand Do you watch him play? Once the OT takes him on the wheel he generally let's off the gas
JimKellyTryouts Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 10:51 PM, YoloinOhio said: One of those weekends I guess Expand Same as every weekend I suppose
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 Kyle was on wgr earlier and said he didn't hear it but other players heard the ref call jerry a derogatory name.
MJS Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 12:00 AM, Boyst62 said: Do you watch him play? Once the OT takes him on the wheel he generally let's off the gas Expand That's bull. A lot can be said negatively about Hughes, but nobody can question his drive or effort. He goes full steam in practice, for goodness sake. 2
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 4, 2018 Posted December 4, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 5:26 AM, MJS said: That's bull. A lot can be said negatively about Hughes, but nobody can question his drive or effort. He goes full steam in practice, for goodness sake. Expand I love when people ask if you watched the game and then are completley wrong. 1
MAJBobby Posted December 5, 2018 Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 11:59 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Expand Whats that old saying. Three strikes and your out. Was warned on prior incidents was suspended third strike your Fired Ellison 1
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