PolishPrince Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 9:19 PM, row_33 said: He has to cut down on running or he’s not long for this league Expand At least today he didn’t take on tacklers, ran OB or got down 1
PeterDude Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:09 PM, PIZ said: No rookie QB that was drafted 1 - 10 of this past draft, other than Allen, has the arm strength to make that throw. Expand But he didn't really make it...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:20 PM, Joe in Winslow said: You're arguing with a bot. Bots can't think. They can only copy and paste. Expand EDO!
par73 Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:06 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Now comes the silliness. He made some great plays in the game and some not so great. That's a fair assessment. Expand I basically said the same thing in the game day thread, and was told I have an "agenda."
Augie Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:00 PM, PeterDude said: He showed exactly what the knock on him comming out of college was. Generally that stuff is not fixable at this level, those kinds of off throws will likely plague his career. He could have set his feet, he didn't, game lost. Expand They said the same things about Mahomes, so..... He made a tough throw, it came up a bit short, but if Clay doesn’t stumble forward it’s the game winning TD on an improbable play that few QB’s in the league could make. I’m not predicting the future, but I’m very encouraged with what I saw from Allen today. He took the offense on his shoulders. I didn’t love all the running, but he wants to win and he was smart about sliding or stepping OB. That’s worked in Seattle with a much smaller QB.
PolishPrince Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 9:19 PM, Bangarang said: Allen had a brutal first half but looked better in the 2nd. Not a fan of all the running he does but he’s making plays with his legs. Expand I disagree it was Brutal. It wasn’t a goood first half but it wasn’t brutal... example of Brutal would be Tyrod’s half losing his starting job to Mayfield.... or ANY Peterman half
Mr. WEO Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:06 PM, MILFHUNTER#518 said: To quote an ex poster, follow the money. I used to be a skeptic. Then i worked with a guy whose father did 15 fed, he was a lietenant with one of the families. This guy seriously grew uo without his father because he was in the families. They have their hands in EVERYTHING. I worked with him for two years, he dished the goods. He would not even watch a game of ANY sport, even college, on TV because he knew they had their hands in the pot. He told me the big three, NFL, MLB, NBA, maybe not ALL the games were rigged, but some definitely were on a daily (MLB) and mostly weekly (NFL) basis. The games with big money, they knew how to get to the refs. In game comms were also fair game. They paid off ANYONE they had to to effect the outcome in their favor. Games like today make me think about our long conversations. I had the same bad ju ju after last years Patricheats game Christmas Eve. Remember the Kelvin Benjamin "non-catch?" Expand It's amazing that with essentially every ref on the take (they would have to be since they all rotate to different games), only your friend (outside of the wise guys) seems to be aware of this.... Bills-Phins is a "big money game"?
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:21 PM, par73 said: I basically said the same thing in the game day thread, and was told I have an "agenda." Expand You have a bunch of bunker mentality fans who can deal with objective criticism of Allen because it threatens their hope tank for a franchise QB. Ignore them and believe what you see.
PeterDude Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) On 12/2/2018 at 10:22 PM, Augie said: They said the same things about Mahomes, so..... He made a tough throw, it came up a bit short, but if Clay doesn’t stumble forward it’s the game winning TD on an improbable play that few QB’s in the league could make. I’m not predicting the future, but I’m very encouraged with what I saw from Allen today. He took the offense on his shoulders. I didn’t love all the running, but he wants to win and he was smart about sliding or stepping OB. That’s worked in Seattle with a much smaller QB. Expand Yeah, I mean Clay has blame on that play as well, he can keep running toward the ball there. Edited December 2, 2018 by PeterDude
Warcodered Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:05 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Bill who? I watch plenty of games and that wasn't the best throw with the game on the line and Allen knows it as anyone with eyes does to. Catchable sure as already stipulated. Expand Really he had no time in the pocket had to dodge the rush immediately and keep doing it to a ridiculous degree. Manages to heave the ball within range of a receiver well after the plays broken down for a first down maybe a TD and because it's not far enough to make the play super easy for the receiver it's his fault? How much effort is reasonable to expect from a receiver? And of course as a leader, teammate, and a rookie QB Allen is going to take and probably actually blame himself on that play for not lasering in so it actually got stuck in Clays helmet. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:24 PM, Warcodered said: Really he had no time in the pocket had to dodge the rush immediately and keep doing it to a ridiculous degree. Manages to heave the ball within range of a receiver well after the plays broken down for a first down maybe a TD and because it's not far enough to make the play super easy for the receiver it's his fault? How much effort is reasonable to expect from a receiver? And of course as a leader, teammate, and a rookie QB Allen is going to take and probably actually blame himself on that play for not lasering in so it actually got stuck in Clays helmet. Expand
Spielman Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) On 12/2/2018 at 9:23 PM, downunderbill said: Don't know about that. I'm a right Josh guy but there were some throws he'll need to learn from. Expand Allen needs to hit a wide open Jones in the end zone and\or a wide open Foster for a TD. Those are pretty easy throws for an NFL quarterback. He makes some great throws and then misses wide open receivers. It is concerning. If if he completes those two passes, we win easily. Also, what about the missed xtra point ? Haushka makes that and we only need a field end at the to send it to OT. Edited December 2, 2018 by Spielman
PIZ Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:17 PM, John in Jax said: Wut.....Darnold?! Expand Ok. Should have said no QB scrambles to avoid that rush AND still has the arm strength to make that throw.
Augie Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:24 PM, PeterDude said: Yeah, I mean Clay has blame on that play as well, he can keep runn toward the ball there. Expand That ball was in the air a LOOOONG time, and Clay couldn’t move forward more than about 5 yards? Inexcusable! Having said that....how did they lose track of him like that??? How does a guy get THAT open in the end zone in THAT situation?
PIZ Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:21 PM, PeterDude said: But he didn't really make it... Expand The throw wasn't the problem in my opinion. The TE roaming 5 yards deep into the end zone and not coming back to the QB was.
downunderbill Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:25 PM, Spielman said: Allen needs to hit a wide open Jones in the end and\or a wide open Foster for a TD. Those are pretty easy throws for an NFL quarterback. He makes some great throws and then misses wide open receivers. It is concerning. If if he completes those two passes, we easily. Also, what about the missed xtra point ? Haushka makes that and we only need a field end at the to send it to OT. Expand Soooo some throws he needs to learn from?
WhoTom Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:25 PM, Spielman said: Allen needs to hit a wide open Jones in the end zone and\or a wide open Foster for a TD. Those are pretty easy throws for an NFL quarterback. He makes some great throws and then misses wide open receivers. It is concerning. If if he completes those two passes, we win easily. Also, what about the missed xtra point ? Haushka makes that and we only need a field end at the to send it to OT. Expand They made up for the missed PAT with the 2-point conversion in the 4th. It's a wash.
GETTOTHE50 Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 10:27 PM, PIZ said: The throw wasn't the problem in my opinion. The TE roaming 5 yards deep into the end zone and not coming back to the QB was. Expand exactly, at some point the receiver needs to turn around and see what the QB is doing. if hes scrambling for his life, than the receivers needs to run back. i have no clue what clay was doing in the back of the end zone
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 2, 2018 Posted December 2, 2018 On 12/2/2018 at 9:36 PM, 26CornerBlitz said: Expand Coach did NOT like the reffing in the game. Josh is pissed, which is what you want to see on his face.
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