Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, DCOrange said: I don’t think he pushed either of them the second time honestly. It looks like he’s just trying to break free from whoever was holding him back and that was bringing his momentum towards the hallway. Then the woman pushes his friend backwards and the two of them happened to collide. And since the guy was already off balance, it made him stumble into the woman who was then knocked over since she had her back turned at that point. Hunt obviously initially pushed her before he was restrained and obviously lightly kicked her at the end, but most physical part of the altercation looks like it was an accident to me. If you slow the video down, it doesn’t look like he’s even looking at his friend or the woman when he knocks them over, and it doesn’t really make sense that he would want to push his own friend anyways (though nothing about this whole thing really makes logical sense to begin with). An accident? Lol. He was trying to get her. That's no accident. Look at the guy. He's hurting. That takes a lot of force.
Alphadawg7 Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: It's not really about how hard or gentle, it's about the act. That's what people are missing. The act is clear as day. I agree with you, but the act is always magnified by the result. Case in point: Ray Rice. It wasnt the punch that knocked her out. She was in the motion of hitting him and off balance, he counter reacted with a hit-shove type move that caused her to lose her balance in a tight space where she fell and hit her head on a steel bar and thats what knocked her out. Had that incident happened someplace where she just fell over and got back up, it still would have been bad, but he serves his 2 games and moves on. But because the result was so terrible, and it was awful, the poor decision now is magnified (and rightfully so) substantially with much more severe consequences. I think we would all agree that driving drunk is a bad decision. But if someone say damages their car trying to park while drunk and someone causes an accident taking someones life...do they have some the severity? No, of course not. Both began with the exact same bad decision, but both had very different results that create substantially different consequences. So while I fully agree the kick-shove move was certainly a poor choice, there was little force, no damage, and she went from squatting to just falling over a couple inches. Its not nearly as severe as many are making it out to be in terms of the level of assault. Certainly didn't appear to be a kick intended to hurt or cause harm and more of a get out of here motion. I will say though, these athletes are just stupid for even putting themselves in these positions where at a moments notice a poor choice can go from no big deal to serious or tragic. Edited November 30, 2018 by Alphadawg7 2
Mango Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 He was incredibly angry. I’d hate to see what he would have done to her if his buddies didn’t hold him back. He was pretty relentless. That is the most terrifying part. 3 1
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: Lol. You can’t be serious. Provide a screenshot from when hunt tackled the girl.
Teddy KGB Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Give him 4 games and let’s move along Definetly not a Ray Rice situation. 1
Golden Goat Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, blacklabel said: I gave up fantasy football a long time ago because by week five or six I'd always forget to set my lineups and it became more of a chore than fun... Anyways, don't they still have Charcandrick West? Thought I saw him get some carries in the Rams game the other week. Not sure if he's RB2 or RB3 tho. Oh, and this behavior from Hunt is disgusting. Kid should sit out the rest of the year for it. Pretty good write-up, fantasy-wise. They were all over this.https://heavy.com/sports/2018/11/kareem-hunt-fantasy-football-waivers-chiefs-spencer-ware/ Edit: West is a free agent. Edited November 30, 2018 by Golden Goat
Rc2catch Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 This has the looks of a long night after the club with some drunken jersey shore moment. As some have said suspend him and move on. Not a good look for him but not really worthy of being the sports headline for weeks to come.
DCOrange Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: An accident? Lol. He was trying to get her. That's no accident. Look at the guy. He's hurting. That takes a lot of force. He was certainly trying to get to her. There’s no doubt about that. I don’t think he intentionally pushed his friend though.
LVGrown Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 I didn't make it through all 8 pages of replies, but from what I did read from some of you, WOW! I couldn't care less what she called him and that she was in his face, he is literally throwing his buddies around trying to get to her. His friends are doing everything they can to contain him and he is going buck wild. This isn't a video of her kicking his ass and him finally snapping and hitting her back. This is a video of him throwing grown men and women around trying to get to her. I'm all about 2nd chances, BUT damn ... he better get no less than Ray Rice and it needs to be immediate. He doesnt get to play playoffs and possibly superbowl just to then get suspended the first 6 games next season. 1
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2018 Author Posted November 30, 2018 Kareem Hunt's Accuser Gives Her Account To Police http://www.tmz.com/videos/0-a1kfgvf3 23 minutes ago, DCOrange said: KC spoke to the media about this in the off-season, so they at least knew about the incident. There’s been reports saying they both did and did not know about the video but I imagine they did. The incident was reported, we even had a thread about it on here. It’s just the video that is now surfacing.
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, LVGrown said: I didn't make it through all 8 pages of replies, but from what I did read from some of you, WOW! I couldn't care less what she called him and that she was in his face, he is literally throwing his buddies around trying to get to her. His friends are doing everything they can to contain him and he is going buck wild. This isn't a video of her kicking his ass and him finally snapping and hitting her back. This is a video of him throwing grown men and women around trying to get to her. I'm all about 2nd chances, BUT damn ... he better get no less than Ray Rice and it needs to be immediate. He doesnt get to play playoffs and possibly superbowl just to then get suspended the first 6 games next season. superbowl? kc wont be in the dance but I agree, he should be suspended some games. as for the WOW factor regarding some of the replies, welcome to 21st century society where morals were left behind.
LVGrown Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: superbowl? kc wont be in the dance but I agree, he should be suspended some games. as for the WOW factor regarding some of the replies, welcome to 21st century society where morals were left behind. I don't think they will either, it's more of the point. His actions need to have consequences and he needs to understand how much his actions affect everyone around him. I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he shoved her away and went on with his night, but he was ready to box. This guy is an idiot.
IDBillzFan Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Kareem Hunt's Accuser Gives Her Account To Police http://www.tmz.com/videos/0-a1kfgvf3 Did she say she just met her that day? Oh, that makes Kareem look MUCH better...
Rocky Landing Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 This is a pretty bad. However, it is no where near the level of Ray Rice. Hunt pushed someone into her, and they both went to the ground. Then, he kicked her over, but not with full force. Ray Rice knocked his fiancé out cold with a closed fist, full force, right to the head. He should definitely be suspended, and I'm sure he will. But, the comparisons to Rice are spurious.
wppete Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/30/nfl-may-find-itself-in-a-tough-spot-over-the-kareem-hunt-video/ NFL may find itself in a tough spot over the Kareem Hunt video The sudden emergence of a video from a February incident that previously received little attention raises an important question for the NFL, a question for which there may be no good answer. What did the NFL know about the existence of the video that purportedly shows Chiefs running back Kareem Hunt shoving and kicking a woman at a Cleveland hotel? If the league office, which surely knew about the incident, knew about the video and did nothing to Hunt, that could spark a firestorm of criticism. If the league office didn’t know about the video, there could still be a firestorm. Much of the Ray Rice debate, as fueled to a fever pitch by an Associated Press report that the league had seen the video from inside a hotel elevator before it was published by TMZ, centered on whether the league should have taken steps to obtain the video, if the league had indeed not seen it. This time around, specific questions could be asked about why the NFL, with an in-house judicial process that supposedly investigates these matters independent of law enforcement, failed to secure (wait for it) surveillance video generated by cameras at a hotel. Basically, the league either saw the video and did nothing (which isn’t good) or the league didn’t see the video because it failed to take steps to obtain it, thereby learning nothing from the Ray Rice fiasco (which isn’t good). The question then becomes whether the NFL will try to downplay the incident, if for no reason other than to keep the story from developing to the point where questions about whether the league saw the video and/or whether the league should have seen the video are asked. 1
Jerome007 Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 1 minute ago, LABillzFan said: Did she say she just met her that day? Oh, that makes Kareem look MUCH better... And that makes HER look much better? What's with you seeing these classless gals as beyond reproach? They can be as bad as some men can be bad.
DJB Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 Where's all the Bills haters that shame our management for not drafting him now????
Pete Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 I picked up Spencer Ware for FF playoffs. 4 weeks off this late (FF playoffs) wrecks many FF teams
707BillsFan Posted November 30, 2018 Posted November 30, 2018 2 hours ago, KD in CA said: Suspension just in time for the fantasy playoffs (he's not on my team). Excellent I just picked up Ware, suspend the man!!
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