SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Rating the job security of every NFL head coach: Who's on thin ice? I tried to search for the other thread I had on this but I gave up after 12 pages ..... Rating 5: Hot seat Green Bay Packers (4-6-1) Coach: Mike McCarthy (125-76-2 over 13 seasons) New York Jets (3-8) Coach: Todd Bowles (23-36 over four seasons) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (4-7) Coach: Dirk Koetter (18-25 over three seasons) Rating 4: Warm seat Arizona Cardinals (2-9) [We've discussed that its too early for this] Coach: Steve Wilks (new coach) Baltimore Ravens (6-5) Coach: John Harbaugh (100-71 over 11 seasons) Cincinnati Bengals (5-6) Coach: Marvin Lewis (130-118-3 over 16 seasons) Dallas Cowboys (6-5) [Jerry will do Jerry things) Coach: Jason Garrett (73-58 over nine seasons) Jacksonville Jaguars (3-8) Coach: Doug Marrone (14-15 over three seasons) Washington Redskins (6-5) Coach: Jay Gruden (34-40-1 over five seasons) Rating 1: Cold seat Buffalo Bills (4-7) Coach: Sean McDermott (13-14 over two seasons) 1
CommonCents Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Fire Mike Mccarthy Dirk Koetter Marvin Lewis Adam Gase Giants GM and coach Vance Joseph and the Broncos have a nice schedule and I expect a late season push. I don’t think he is a great coach but they might make playoffs.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I agree with all the fives and most of the fours, though to be honest, I'd give Marrone another year. Hard to fire a guy who was less than one quarter of football away from last years SB. Could put more of the blame there on Tom C for not getting a better QB. And barring a complete late season flop, I'd give Garrett another season too. If you're going to fire a head coach, you also better have an idea that you can find a better replacement as opposed to re-cycling someone else's failure. Edited November 28, 2018 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch
wppete Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Fire Mike Mccarthy Dirk Koetter Doug Marone Move Marvin Lewis to the Bengals front office. 1
eball Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: I agree with all the fives and most of the fours, though to be honest, I'd give Marrone another year. Hard to fire a guy who was less than one quarter of football away from last years SB. Could put more of the blame there on Tom C for not getting a better QB. And barring a complete late season flop, I'd give Garrett another season too. If you're going to fire a head coach, you also better have an idea that you can find a better replacement as opposed to re-cycling someone else's failure. I don't think Saint Doug will be fired. He has the Bortles excuse as well as Fournette's injury, and he already jettisoned his scapegoat when he fired Nathaniel earlier this week.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 28, 2018 Author Posted November 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, Commonsense said: Fire Mike Mccarthy Dirk Koetter Marvin Lewis Adam Gase Giants GM and coach Vance Joseph and the Broncos have a nice schedule and I expect a late season push. I don’t think he is a great coach but they might make playoffs. Gase does seem to be on the hot seat again. 1 minute ago, eball said: I don't think Saint Doug will be fired. He has the Bortles excuse as well as Fournette's injury, and he already jettisoned his scapegoat when he fired Nathaniel earlier this week. He's lost the team in a way. Last season he was a tough HC and he may have lightened up on the tough love. Now look at them. Shooting their mouths off in the offseason and when his "best player" comes back gets into a fight and gets suspended. 1
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) My only quibble would be with Marvin Lewis; it was hit or miss for a minute before this season if he would be coming back so in light of the latest Bengals implosion I’d say move him back to DEFCON 5 hot. However, ownership has already given him more undeserved longevity than that enjoyed by the highway robber Hue Jackson (ironically now employed by the same FO so that’s about as guaranteed job security outside of a federal government job as you can get), so you’re probably right that your current group of 5’s still go first, especially Bowles, aka the anti-Batman of “Gotham City” ? Edited November 28, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12 1
eball Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: He's lost the team in a way. Last season he was a tough HC and he may have lightened up on the tough love. Now look at them. Shooting their mouths off in the offseason and when his "best player" comes back gets into a fight and gets suspended. I agree -- I just think because of the relationship with Coughlin he'll survive at least one more year. At the end of the day, though, I don't think he's a very good head coach. Some may believe I feel that way because of how he left Buffalo but it's not that at all. He has not proven himself to be anything other than a roughly .500 coach in 4+ seasons, and he has had elite defenses at both places.
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I think Lewis is out mccarthy bowles harbaugh koetter maybe Gase if it gets real sideways also if Atlanta can’t get it back to decent, it could be over there too. Starting to look more and more like Shanahan was the reason they were real good. Edited November 28, 2018 by Brianmoorman4jesus
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 I am pretty sure Marrone is safe. He is getting a chance with a Quarterback not name Blake Bortles next year. All 3 of your "5" rated are gone. I still think Vance Joseph is a very warm seat. It is true to say that their schedule is no too bad the next few weeks - but if they end up worse than 8-8 on that schedule I think he will be out of a job. Elway nearly fired him last year. Steve Wilkes in Arizona is almost certainly safe but should almost certainly be fired. He is way, way out of his depth. Arizona is a pretty stable place though I think he will get a 2nd year. I just don't expect it to get any better. Magic Marvin's magic might finally run out and I think if Washington completely collapses down the stretch then despite the Smith injury the blame will fall on Gruden. Jason Garrett and John Harbaugh will be fine.
Happy Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Commonsense said: Fire Mike Mccarthy Dirk Koetter Marvin Lewis Adam Gase Giants GM and coach Vance Joseph and the Broncos have a nice schedule and I expect a late season push. I don’t think he is a great coach but they might make playoffs. Gettleman and Shurmur are in their first season as GM and HC. I doubt they get fired, even with the bad year that NYG has had. 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Jason Garrett and John Harbaugh will be fine. I thought Harbaugh and the Ravens will have a mutual parting of ways after this season...has that changed?
GunnerBill Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: Gettleman and Shurmur are in their first season as GM and HC. I doubt they get fired, even with the bad year that NYG has had. Any update on Gettleman's health? I think that is the key question. If he is healthy I think he gets another year and by extension Schurmer is safe. If Gettleman has to step down then a new GM might well want his own coach. 3 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: I thought Harbaugh and the Ravens will have a mutual parting of ways after this season...has that changed? If they have a winning season I can't see him being fired. This week is big for them. Beat Atlanta and the worst record I see them ending with is 9-7.
dpberr Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Pat Shurmur and John Harbaugh are good as gone IMO. Shurmur's team is listless. I think the Baltimore owner wants a new direction. I think this year is going to have a lot of vacancies. Everybody wants the next Sean McVay.
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Am I the only one that is shocked that Garrett has been the HC in Dallas for 9 season now? Why does it seem like yesterday that Wade was the Coach of that team?! 1
RyanC883 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 McCarthy in Green Bay is handicapped by an incompetent GM and Rodgers huge contract. I'd keep him. If they can him, he'll be picked up by the Jets. I don't want that. Bowles has to be on the hottest seat, followed by Lewis and Gase. Just now, dpberr said: Pat Shurmur and John Harbaugh are good as gone IMO. Shurmur's team is listless. I think the Baltimore owner wants a new direction. I think this year is going to have a lot of vacancies. Everybody wants the next Sean McVay. Lincoln Riley (HC-Oklahoma) is about to cash in BIG TIME!
dollars 2 donuts Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, dpberr said: Pat Shurmur and John Harbaugh are good as gone IMO. Shurmur's team is listless. I think the Baltimore owner wants a new direction. I think this year is going to have a lot of vacancies. Everybody wants the next Sean McVay. If so then I say Merilu Henner is the next great coaching prospect. Like McVay she is another one of those people that can remember every day of their life. @TheBeane Beane, people like MckVay and Henner are crazy...you can pick any moment or day in their life and they can remember what they did or were doing. They've quizzed MckVay on plays called years before in games and he has gotten them right...and not just big plays. Edited November 28, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1
ProcessAccepted Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 2 hours ago, wppete said: Fire Mike Mccarthy Dirk Koetter Doug Marone Move Marvin Lewis to the Bengals front office. I've often wondered how McCarthy would do coaching a team that doesn't have Rodgers. If when AR was hurt was what it'd be like then it wasn't pretty. 1
Happy Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Any update on Gettleman's health? I think that is the key question. If he is healthy I think he gets another year and by extension Schurmer is safe. If Gettleman has to step down then a new GM might well want his own coach. If they have a winning season I can't see him being fired. This week is big for them. Beat Atlanta and the worst record I see them ending with is 9-7. Haven't seen anything on Gettleman's health since articles from last July, which stated his cancer is in remission. I'm sure he's keeping this private with discussion only with ownership; can't blame him there. I don't see Harbaugh being fired, either. I was thinking back to a month, or so, ago when articles appeared that Harbaugh and the Ravens will amicably part ways. If they make the playoffs, hard to see Harbaugh forced out; he would leave because he wants to.
Captain Hindsight Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 My bet is: Lewis McCarthy Harbaugh (Mutual Parting) Bowles Wilkes (Arizona is horrendous) Koetter Gase Marrone - This would be the most shocking but that team has completely lost its way and its about to hit salary cap hell. Coughlin would be wise to cut bait and give someone with an actual plan besides some quitter.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 I wonder if Bowles gets a second shot in AZ since that's where he made his jump to HC from when he was DC under Arians.
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