Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Will Trump threaten this company too? Libertarians were so NOT upset when Trump did that to other companies. 1
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Sad but Trump’s economic numbers are still rising so hopefully they find new jobs.
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: Sad but Trump’s economic numbers are still rising so hopefully they find new jobs. That's what i said about those former coal miners in West Virginia and other areas, but they are still holding out hope for going back down the mine. Not happening.
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: That's what i said about those former coal miners in West Virginia and other areas, but they are still holding out hope for going back down the mine. Not happening. This is America. People lose their jobs. They face hardship. They find new jobs (in a good economy). They persevere. Looking for your President to make sure you never face hardship again is a fool’s errand. 1
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: This is America. People lose their jobs. They face hardship. They find new jobs (in a good economy). They persevere. Looking for your President to make sure you never face hardship again is a fool’s errand. You talking to me, or all those West Virginians that want the president to fix the economy so we use more dirty coal? Spit
BringBackOrton Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: You talking to me, or all those West Virginians that want the president to fix the economy so we use more dirty coal? Spit Both? The economy is excellent right now. That doesn’t mean no one is ever going to be fired ever again.
/dev/null Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Funny how that happens to crony capitalists when the government stops succling.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Sign of the times, as all of the affected locations produce small-to-medium size passenger cars (which nobody is buying anymore). Contrast that to GM's Arlington (TX) plant which produces pickups and SUVs and is running three shifts right now to keep up with the demand. 1
DC Tom Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, peace out said: #MAGA Yet more of Obama's legacy that Trump is dismantling.
boyst Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Sign of the times, as all of the affected locations produce small-to-medium size passenger cars (which nobody is buying anymore). Contrast that to GM's Arlington (TX) plant which produces pickups and SUVs and is running three shifts right now to keep up with the demand. Sounds like a Democratic platform to do some fuel restrictions to fix this!
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, peace out said: #MAGA You a GM worker? I did not think so. The automotive industry has been out of the shadows of the Presidency since WWII when the POTUS could influence how much plant space went to the war effort. In the late 1970's the die was cast outside the influence of the Presidency when Chrysler and Ford were at risk of slipping under the water. Only movements made by the respective managements of both companies ensured the survival of each going into the late 1980's. Heck, we are decades beyond when a quarter point move by the Fed would make or break a year for the US auto companies. This move just confirms that there is too much capacity for the expected business heading into the future. We already have 96 and 108 month financing or 250 dollars per month leasing on 35-40K vehicles. The only thing left to do was reduce production and work the cost side of the equation. Maybe there is something that Trump can do but a lot of the economic Viagra has been used up with tax deals and so forth.
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 A comment that I saw on another message board: I'm American but spend about half my time in France. Ford makes an entry level model called "Ka", which costs around 10,000 euros, approx. $11,500 and gets 45/75 MPG. Other American and European auto manufacturers sell similar entry level cars. Renault offers an all-electric 4 door sedan for around 23,000 euros, + 39 euros monthly "rent" for the battery, which they will replace when it can no longer carry more than a 75% charge. I believe the car has a range of around 200 miles. For low priced, high fuel efficiency cars and electric cars, the choices in Europe are much better than the USA. And some of the best choices are made by American manufacturers!
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Sign of the times, as all of the affected locations produce small-to-medium size passenger cars (which nobody is buying anymore). Contrast that to GM's Arlington (TX) plant which produces pickups and SUVs and is running three shifts right now to keep up with the demand. Good point and one I forgot about but as was said when similar plants were idled they can always be returned to production if there is a shift in oil prices or the economy.
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said: Sign of the times, as all of the affected locations produce small-to-medium size passenger cars (which nobody is buying anymore). Contrast that to GM's Arlington (TX) plant which produces pickups and SUVs and is running three shifts right now to keep up with the demand. Helping burn up the planet one SUV at a time
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Helping burn up the planet one SUV at a time Mandating clown cars is the answer?
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: Mandating clown cars is the answer? There is no solution, IMO.
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: There is no solution, IMO. From where you sit there is a a solution but not one that can be sprung on the public all at once and only after the ability to resist by the public at large has been eliminated. Admit it. You dream of a government that can dictate to the public without back lash. Clown cars would be the best a person could hope for in your utopia.
Tiberius Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Just now, RochesterRob said: From where you sit there is a a solution but not one that can be sprung on the public all at once and only after the ability to resist by the public at large has been eliminated. Admit it. You dream of a government that can dictate to the public without back lash. Clown cars would be the best a person could hope for in your utopia. How would that stop Asia from building more coal burning power plants? Don't tell me what I dream on, you idiot. How stupid does a person have to be to tell a person what they dream of?
RochesterRob Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: How would that stop Asia from building more coal burning power plants? Don't tell me what I dream on, you idiot. How stupid does a person have to be to tell a person what they dream of? You can fool yourself but you are very obvious to the rest of us. As to Asia it is one step at a time regardless of your political affiliation. In your case it is embargoes and sanctions to get the Asian countries to do what you want at least until like minded individuals take over leadership. In your mind China was heading the right direction with Mao but then people started wanting things.
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