BillsMafia13 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, NewDayBills said: No you can't. Occasionally a team will get lucky but you won't find a back that gets 1,000 yards on the ground and 1,000 yards in the air. You'll have a hard time finding anyone close. Bell still got lots of tread on them tires. Our offense would improve vastly, especially for Allen. Dump the ball off to Bell 100 times a year and that easily gives Allen 1,000 yards + passing. Dude they proved it this year with his replacement. Conner- 700k vs. Bell- 16 mil. Aint even close
BillsVet Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 I'd make the move to add him...if this were fantasy football which is what I believe prompts observations like this. From a resource allocation perspective I wouldn't consider sinking so much into the RB position. The positional value, even for a currently top level back, is not sufficient to warrant the investment.
BillsMafia13 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Could be a part of it, but still. Bell is like having a 1,000 rusher and a 1,000 yard receiver in one player. That equates to Buffalo getting more yards, which we desperately need. And still no, his best year was 800 rec yards. I feel like you only watch his highlights on sports center.... when he was playing
Cripple Creek Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, NewDayBills said: Let's say we finish 8-8, Allen plays great to finish the season. Buffalo looks like a team that is going to compete for a long time. We would suddenly become an attractive destination for many FAs. We also have a ton of cap space to work with and our offense lacks a playmaker. Why not Bell? Give him what he wants, Buffalo now has the best RB in the NFL. Build that OL in the draft and free agency. Buffalo adds a guy that regularly puts up 2,000 all purpose yards a season. Hopefully Zay and Foster continue to develop alongside Allen and I could definitely see us making a playoff push. Bell gets a 4 year deal, his contract would be up around the same time Josh Allen's is, so no conflict there. Definitely think offense would not be a problem anymore. pass
Malazan Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Anywhere else would be a great place for Bell. Preferably, the Jets. 1
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsMafia13 said: And still no, his best year was 800 rec yards. I feel like you only watch his highlights on sports center.... when he was playing It's hard not to see his highlights on sports center when he's having so many. Watch any random game early in his career and see his body of work and All-Pro nods aren't people "just watching highlights". Also don't understand why Connor being good = Bell is not good. They're both good! If we could draft like the Steelers we wouldn't be fishing for FA skill position players rn. It's pretty well established the Steelers are damn good at finding skill position players. Bell's replacable if McDermott can draft Connor's caliber of running. But can he?? 1
McNubbins Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 He sat out all year. Not a process guy and antithetical to the character type of guys McBeane want.
DCOrange Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 Ultimately I think Bell is a Jet. Don’t really expect Indy or Buffalo to make a run at him personally and the Jets will open the checkbook for him.
billsfan_34 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, CLTbills said: I don’t know why ANYONE would shell out that kind of cash for a RB in general. You can find good backs on days 2-3 in the draft. May not be quite Bell’s level, but if you can get 80% of that production for 10% of the price, why wouldn’t you? Exactly- Bell should have taken his 14 mil this year. After that go for a 3 year 8 mil per year- that is fair market- anything more a team with any sense will walk away and draft one.
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, the skycap said: A saint?? Wasn't Bell and his teammate suspended for being on "the weeeed"? I like my runningbacks stoned rather than domestic allegations.. that's literally the only dirt Bell's been accused of. Shady's been around the block and has surely had unjust allegations but.. it ain't Bell's fault he doesn't get into trouble. Shady's partying at a night club near drunk cops with both parties being belligerent, for all we know Bell's getting high and playing Madden all night.. I'd prefer my runningbacks to get stoned and play Madden on days off and work out than have baby mama drama and violent nights out. Love Shady, just making the point Bell's clean as a whistle other than 1 drug suspension. Ain't nobody got stoned in the car straight chilling with teammate Blount, talking about RB stories, and find themselves get caught in a night club brawl with cops 2 hours later ?. Bell and Blount's night out would have ended up with a 5 pizza binge and hitting the toilet hard next morning worst case scenario... Other than getting caught and arrested for an illegal drug lol Edited November 26, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks
ghostwriter Posted November 26, 2018 Author Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsMafia13 said: And still no, his best year was 800 rec yards. I feel like you only watch his highlights on sports center.... when he was playing His production is his production, Bills could use that kind of production. Look at WR in FA, it's a bare cupboard! LeVeon Bell can get you 75+ receptions, most of them for 1st downs. Very little at WR in FA. Bell could easily give Allen 800-1,000 passing yards. Easily. Keep Murphy, draft one, everyone else needs to go.
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: His production is his production, Bills could use that kind of production. Look at WR in FA, it's a bare cupboard! LeVeon Bell can get you 75+ receptions, most of them for 1st downs. Very little at WR in FA. Bell could easily give Allen 800-1,000 passing yards. Easily. Keep Murphy, draft one, everyone else needs to go. Bell could line up wide. Literally change position to WR#1 and be a top receiver and easily the best we have lmao. He's better than all our skill position players in literally every way. Faster than Foster, better hands than.. Zay (lol), fights for jump balls and RZ targets better than KB. Runs better routes than.. Zay. These WRs suck! Edited November 26, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks 1
ghostwriter Posted November 26, 2018 Author Posted November 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: Bell could line up wide. Literally change position to WR#1 and be a top receiver and easily the best we have lmao. He's better than all our skill position players in literally every way. He'd generate more receiving yards, first downs and touchdowns than Zay Jones. Definitely be our leading receiver. 75 catches minimum and it'd be easy 1 yard throws for Allen. He's also a great RB too. Somebody you can build a team around. If he wants 18 million, give him 18 million. Pay him what he wants, 400 touches a year minimum.
Bangarang Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 I really am sick of this team investing a lot in RBs.
ColoradoBills Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, billieve420 said: I prefer the running back by committee approach and spending more on the offensive line instead. A good offensive line will make average runners look better. I'm thinking that is what you are going to see at RB after Shady leaves (maybe at the end of this season). I get the feeling the Bills will field multiple backs making 3-4 million all with special talents vs. a high dollar back.
BillsMafia13 Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 55 minutes ago, NewDayBills said: He'd generate more receiving yards, first downs and touchdowns than Zay Jones. Definitely be our leading receiver. 75 catches minimum and it'd be easy 1 yard throws for Allen. He's also a great RB too. Somebody you can build a team around. If he wants 18 million, give him 18 million. Pay him what he wants, 400 touches a year minimum. So just to get this straight. Hes going to be substantially more productive here in Buffalo, than he was in Pitt where he had a MUCH better QB, WRs to take attention away, and significantly better oline. Better than his career highs btw. Im not saying hes not great but a lot of his stats is being a product of his environment. To think hes gonna take it to another level in Buffalo is too much for me. 1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said: It's hard not to see his highlights on sports center when he's having so many. Watch any random game early in his career and see his body of work and All-Pro nods aren't people "just watching highlights". Also don't understand why Connor being good = Bell is not good. They're both good! If we could draft like the Steelers we wouldn't be fishing for FA skill position players rn. It's pretty well established the Steelers are damn good at finding skill position players. Bell's replacable if McDermott can draft Connor's caliber of running. But can he?? Ill make the prediction he signs the monster contract he wants with a team like the Jets/Bucs/some other garbage team and has a down year by everyones standards. He will not just walk into that kushy of a situations, sans the Packers or Pats. Watch the drama unfold after that
Dr.Sack Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 We have lots of money to spend but I don’t think the Bills land him. If I was Bell I’d go to the team that offers the most money. I believe the Jets land him like they did with Curtis Martin after he left New England. 1
Bing Bong Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: We have lots of money to spend but I don’t think the Bills land him. If I was Bell I’d go to the team that offers the most money. I believe the Jets land him like they did with Curtis Martin after he left New England. Yeah he's definitely going for the highest bidder. I just don't want to end the off season with more free salary cap available than other teams (while being mindful of ensuring future re-signs).. just wasted team money/talent. That's why all this cap we're hyping up isn't the end all be all: there's not that many good FAs to go around 19 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: So just to get this straight. Hes going to be substantially more productive here in Buffalo, than he was in Pitt where he had a MUCH better QB, WRs to take attention away, and significantly better oline. Better than his career highs btw. Im not saying hes not great but a lot of his stats is being a product of his environment. To think hes gonna take it to another level in Buffalo is too much for me. Ill make the prediction he signs the monster contract he wants with a team like the Jets/Bucs/some other garbage team and has a down year by everyones standards. He will not just walk into that kushy of a situations, sans the Packers or Pats. Watch the drama unfold after that Probably not but wherever goes he'd get the lion's share of touches and have a huge usage rate. I don't anticipate drama. I totally agree he's just going to follow the money and likely have a down year (by his standards), but I think he's the type to be happy getting paid as much as possible and being used as much as possible.. doesn't seem like the Haynesworth type and the dude certainly wouldn't mind being an offensive focal point. Bell to the Bucs would be a super fun team actually, Fitz/Winston/any competent Quarterback would have one of the best skill position units in the league and would have to REALLY suck to screw that up.
ThunderGun Posted November 26, 2018 Posted November 26, 2018 (edited) I have no interest in them ever tying as much money up in the RB position as they even have already with Shady, let alone what Bell is expecting after his $14 million+ temper tantrum. You need an elite OL, then you just plug in 3rd-5th rounders behind them. OL is everything, RBs unfortunately take the brunt of the punishment, have the shortest careers and are super replaceable. Maybe the next time the CBA is up they can institute a minimum salary specifically for running backs considering the amount of punishment they take vs other positions and their careers generally being much shorter than most others. Edited November 26, 2018 by ThunderGun 1
ghostwriter Posted November 26, 2018 Author Posted November 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: So just to get this straight. Hes going to be substantially more productive here in Buffalo, than he was in Pitt where he had a MUCH better QB, WRs to take attention away, and significantly better oline. Better than his career highs btw. Im not saying hes not great but a lot of his stats is being a product of his environment. To think hes gonna take it to another level in Buffalo is too much for me. Those are his career averages, you could argue that Antonio Brown may take some production away from LeVeon Bell too. Here he gets all the focus. Obviously we have to fix the OL but we have a bazillion draft picks in a deep draft. Elgton Jenkins is a better prospect than Eric Wood was coming out. Trade down and grab him. Take a couple OL in the second round too. 1
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