Shady can only Shake/Bake with his Head & Shoulders

[PUNT750]

He's lost that quick step.  No more more shake & bake from his hips and feet.  It happens to all great running backs.  Do the coaches see it?

[mikemac2001]

I saw him dodge a 4 yard loss and get 3 using his quick step. 

 

He’s not getting much space and there is a lot of dline penatration 

[JoPar_v2]

11 minutes ago, PUNT750 said:

He's lost that quick step.  No more more shake & bake from his hips and feet.  It happens to all great running backs.  Do the coaches see it?

Another stellar thread from you. Honestly I had thought (hoped?) you were suspended.

 

did you see the run blocking today? Did you notice who we happened to be playing? Did you catch the jets game 2 weeks ago?

[atlbillsfan1975]

This line still isn’t run blocking very good. Ivory’s style of north and south is better suited. One step and then straight up. McCoy likes to delay and wait for an opening. Problem is there isn’t many. 

[The Frankish Reich]

I do think he's lost a step. Most of his problems have been a function of this incompetent (but improving!) offense, but even with those problems, in past years he probably would have broken at least a couple 40+ yard runs. Those aren't coming this year. His longest run this year? 28 yards. In his previous Bills years:  48, 75, 48.

[Phil The Thrill]

I can’t figure out what the deal is.  I do think part of the problem is the blocking.  He doesn’t have the space he needs to make players miss.  The other problem is his reluctance to hit the hole hard like Chris Ivory does. 

[mjd1001]

I'm not sure how much of a step he has or hasn't lost...but he either did lose a step or he isn't the best back for this offense (Ivory might be better)

 

On some of the 3-6 yard runs McCoy has had the last few weeks...he gets through a hole in the line and then when he gets in front of the tackler...say 5 yards away..he does a little dance and then gets tackled and goes down.  If that same hole is there...Ivory hits the hole...gets to that same 5 yard distance when approaching the tackler...and runs into him full speed and gets brought down after falling forward for an extra yard or two.

 

 

[Mat68]

He seemed to lose his suddenness.  Seems from point A to B hes as quick as ever.  That hop step and start stop has faded.  Gotta find some one give all that money to, I trade McCoy for a mid rd pick and back brinks up to Bell for 3 years.  Bell looks like the best skill player available.

Edited November 26, 2018 by Mat68

[John from Riverside]

The OP's posts are aweful

 

Shady is fine.......we were not going to run all over a very good Jag defense

[Buffalo716]

14 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I'm not sure how much of a step he has or hasn't lost...but he either did lose a step or he isn't the best back for this offense (Ivory might be better)

 

On some of the 3-6 yard runs McCoy has had the last few weeks...he gets through a hole in the line and then when he gets in front of the tackler...say 5 yards away..he does a little dance and then gets tackled and goes down.  If that same hole is there...Ivory hits the hole...gets to that same 5 yard distance when approaching the tackler...and runs into him full speed and gets brought down after falling forward for an extra yard or two.

 

 

 

Ivory is a power back.

 

Lesean is a finesse back. He will never just try to truck a guy in the open field

 

Lesean wouldn’t have played a decade in the league if he did

[LABILLBACKER]

15 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I'm not sure how much of a step he has or hasn't lost...but he either did lose a step or he isn't the best back for this offense (Ivory might be better)

 

On some of the 3-6 yard runs McCoy has had the last few weeks...he gets through a hole in the line and then when he gets in front of the tackler...say 5 yards away..he does a little dance and then gets tackled and goes down.  If that same hole is there...Ivory hits the hole...gets to that same 5 yard distance when approaching the tackler...and runs into him full speed and gets brought down after falling forward for an extra yard or two.

 

 

Too much dancing all around.  Love Shady but he reminds me of CJ Spiller more every game. 

[Helpmenow]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Ivory is a power back.

 

Lesean is a finesse back. He will never just try to truck a guy in the open field

 

Lesean wouldn’t have played a decade in the league if he did

Is he worth 6 million 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, Helpmenow said:

Is he worth 6 million 

I literally do not care about the salaries.....we are going from salary cap hell to salary cap heaven next year.....

 

Put better blocking and WR's that will pull defenders out of the box and you will see a different running game with these players

[Buffalo716]

Just now, Helpmenow said:

Is he worth 6 million 

Of course. He is still a freak, having a down year

 

we can’t run block to save our life... but the pass protection has been decent 

 

Ivory will just put his head down and hit the hole that is barely there, or create one... and that is valuable.. and you need a guy like that

 

but they aren’t sustainable for a full 16 game nfl season consistently ... We are really missing Wood and Incognito in the run game

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Of course. He is still a freak, having a down year

 

we can’t run block to save our life... but the pass protection has been decent 

 

Ivory will just put his head down and hit the hole that is barely there, or create one... and that is valuable.. and you need a guy like that

 

but they aren’t sustainable for a full 16 game nfl season consistently ... We are really missing Wood and Incognito in the run game

I don't think McCoy is finished by any stretch of imagination. But he is 30, he is having his worst statistical year (of course, on what was almost a historically inept offense until the last couple games), and he hasn't broken any long runs through 11 games of this season. He is ready to phase into a more specialist role rather than an every down back.

[dubs]

1 hour ago, PUNT750 said:

He's lost that quick step.  No more more shake & bake from his hips and feet.  It happens to all great running backs.  Do the coaches see it?

 

Cool story

[Buffalo716]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

I don't think McCoy is finished by any stretch of imagination. But he is 30, he is having his worst statistical year (of course, on what was almost a historically inept offense until the last couple games), and he hasn't broken any long runs through 11 games of this season. He is ready to phase into a more specialist role rather than an every down back.

 

He has plenty of gas left in the tank.. atleast enough To have another 1000 yard year next year

 

we don’t have the hogs up front. Football at its most FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS can be broken down to BLOCKING and TACKLING

 

we have struggled in the run blocking part this year 

 

Get another lineman or 2 and Shady will still have a good year next year.. he needs holes

[Bill_with_it]

It looks as if they have changed the oline blocking scheme, along with forcing certain runs in certain directions. The run game needs some work.

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

He has plenty of gas left in the tank.. atleast enough To have another 1000 yard year next year

 

we don’t have the hogs up front. Football at its most FUNDAMENTAL ELEMENTS can be broken down to BLOCKING and TACKLING

 

we have struggled in the run blocking part this year 

 

Get another lineman or 2 and Shady will still have a good year next year.. he needs holes

I don't doubt he still has the talent to bounce back next year. My comment was more nuanced - (1) the Bills brass should realize that a running back on the wrong side of 30 has almost by definition lost a little something in elusiveness and/or durability; (2) but if used correctly (and I think that means a lot more in the passing game, getting the ball in space) and with somewhat better personnel around him, he will still be a very valuable player. 

[Doc Brown]

He looked like his old self against the Jets.  His style requires sustained run blocking and we're not getting that consistently this year.  A straight ahead physical running style suits this team better at the moment.