DefenseWins Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge...
RochesterRob Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge... Absolutely. In particular if there is an advantage in terms of strength to weight ratio or stamina to name a couple of issues. Coaches have long stated that many games are won in the fourth quarter by whoever has more gas left in the tank
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Genes.... they do stuff 1 1
dickleyjones Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge... Of course it matters.
Saxum Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Yes it matters - genetics, experience in handling issues including training during offseason and press, etc but not so much for coaching where often relatives will get jobs even with better candidates out there. Belichick – Steve Belichick (father); Bill Belichick (son); Stephen Belichick (grandson) Ryan – Buddy Ryan (father); Rex Ryan, Rob Ryan (twin sons) 1
The Wiz Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, aceman_16 said: For puppies sure... Horses too.
Augie Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Horses too. ...but puppies are easier to clean up after.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Augie said: ...but puppies are easier to clean up after. As an owner of five dogs, I take exception to this notion. ?
jr1 Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Genetics aside, the advice they get about training, watching film etc. They have a huge advantage 1 1
K D Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Genes.... they do stuff I have my dad's jeans...they are baggy 1 1
NoSaint Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, jr1 said: Genetics aside, the advice they get about training, watching film etc. They have a huge advantage Yup. Seems both nature and nurture aspects would potentially help. In theory, they are at least halfway to nfl genetics, and if dads a good parent they end up being exposed to a ton of beneficial resources I couldn’t connect my son to
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, WRONG JOSH said: I have my dad's jeans...they are baggy Then you’ll probably be baggy too 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge... Speaking as the non-sports parent of an athletically minded kid, the challenge was finding good coaching for her that would teach her skills properly. Coaches on Jr teams are basically "cat herding" - they're trying to get a roomful of kids to pay attention and go through drills, then at later levels to learn some plays and strategy. They don't have time to teach good technique. It's not a surprise to me that the two star players on the kid's HS girls basketball team had a father who played and who regularly took them to the Y to practice shooting and other drills. The best players on her HS volleyball team had parents who played DI in college. Having a family who is "in to" a sport is helpful just to be sure the kids learn the right fundamentals and have someone knowledgeable to practice with and drill the right techniques, or even sort out the quality of additional training from people who know what they're talking about. My kid is a natural athlete (doesn't get it from me) but while she played varsity in her chosen sport for 2 years and started for one, she didn't get as far as she could have with someone knowledgeable teaching her outside of the teams. 4
/dev/null Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: As an owner of five dogs, I take exception to this notion. ? Do you really own the dogs or do the dogs own you?
Big Turk Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 I mean it makes sense...genetics obviously play a role in things...highly athletic people usually have a good chance of passing on those traits to their offspring...just like 2 hot people who have children usually have good looking offspring.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, /dev/null said: Do you really own the dogs or do the dogs own you? That’s a fantastic question. They listen to me but there’s a lot of time spent maintaining those dogs lol
The Frankish Reich Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) It's not just bloodlines. In fact, a lot of the combine stuff will substitute for analyzing the genetic factors. There's also the fact that sons of former players may have an advantage in adapting more quickly/effectively to the higher levels of the game - a kind of "knowing what it takes to succeed" theory. This was one of the things Moneyball era Billy Beane believed in; all things being equal, he would (and did) take the kid of a big leaguer over a similar first generation player. We heard a lot of the same things here about Zay Jones when the Bills drafted him. (Chad Kelly appears to either be the great exception, or perhaps proof that a nephew is one step too far removed ...) Edited November 24, 2018 by The Frankish Reich
Thurman#1 Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 36 minutes ago, jr1 said: Genetics aside, the advice they get about training, watching film etc. They have a huge advantage This. Kids from that background have a huge advantage in reaching the 10,000 hours to achieve mastery.
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted November 24, 2018 Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) I wonder how much of it also would be an emphasis on playing, coaching etc from young age and being around the game more than the average kid coming up, so makes sense more would be drawn to that as a career choice. 39 minutes ago, WRONG JOSH said: I have my dad's jeans...they are baggy And probably very “holey”? Edited November 24, 2018 by NoHuddleKelly12
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