Michigan VS Ohio St. What say you?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

McCaffrey broke his collarbone weeks ago. And yes it was a choke job. Purdue, Nebraska, Maryland all attacked osu’s Defense with extreme success. What did Harbaugh do? He’s an offensive guru, no? How do you get out coached by Greg Schiano

 

Harbaugh didn't make dumb decisions so this not on him it's on the players ,just like our Bills.

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Harbaugh didn't make dumb decisions so this not on him it's on the players ,just like our Bills.

 

 

What does it have to do with the Bills ?

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Please not even close.

 

It's Patterson missing throws , Gentry and others dropping balls and star defenders being out causing the the defense to switch from their normal man to man to zone.

 

 

 

The defense switched cos in man they were getting killed by crossers. They fell right into the Ohio State trap and reverted to zone and then they got killed everywhere. 

 

It is a big game. Harbaugh turtles. This is par for the course. My post was at 0-0 as they kicked off. You can make all the excuses you want I have spent all week watching the analysts and experts say this is the game where Michigan makes a statement and puts 'Bama on notice for the playoffs and blah, blah, blah. I never had a single minutes doubt all week that Ohio State would win this game. Not one. And I haven't watched an Ohio State game in full all year. I didn't need to. This is the Harbaugh story. It has happened far too often now for anyone to believe it is bad luck or coincidence, surely?

 

If you want a guy to turn around a failing programme in the NFL or in CFB you should make Jim Harbaugh your first call. If you want a guy to make you a Champion? Scratch his name right off the list. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

You can't choke if you aren't good so I'd agree that Harbaugh didn't choke.  0-4 speaks for itself.  He is the Connor Cook of coaches.

 

And you are the Collin Kaepernick of posters.

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The defense switched cos in man they were getting killed by crossers. They fell right into the Ohio State trap and reverted to zone and then they got killed everywhere. 

 

It is a big game. Harbaugh turtles. This is par for the course. My post was at 0-0 as they kicked off. You can make all the excuses you want I have spent all week watching the analysts and experts say this is the game where Michigan makes a statement and puts 'Bama on notice for the playoffs and blah, blah, blah. I never had a single minutes doubt all week that Ohio State would win this game. Not one. And I haven't watched an Ohio State game in full all year. I didn't need to. This is the Harbaugh story. It has happened far too often now for anyone to believe it is bad luck or coincidence, surely?

 

If you want a guy to turn around a failing programme in the NFL or in CFB you should make Jim Harbaugh your first call. If you want a guy to make you a Champion? Scratch his name right off the list. 

I agree. He’s never won anything of significance. Even with Andrew luck. Unless you count the Sun Bowl and Fiesta Bowl. I’ve said for years his problem is sub-par recruiting and stubborn, archaic offense. Can’t beat anyone good like that. 

Edited November 24, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I agree. He’s never won anything of significance. Even with Andrew luck. Unless you count the Sun Bowl and Fiesta Bowl.

 

He isn't a winner. He is a great competitor, but not a winner. Because he is too intense, too emotional and not a rational decision maker. He is bascially the same coach he was as a Quarterback. 

[Kirby Jackson]

18 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Please not even close.

 

It's Patterson missing throws , Gentry and others dropping balls and star defenders being out causing the the defense to switch from their normal man to man to zone.

 

 

Harbaugh has beaten them as many times as me. He has 4 more losses than I do.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Harbaugh has beaten them as many times as me. He has 4 more losses than I do.

 

so he lost this game ?? I don't think so, the QB, WRs and defensive injuries were the reason.

 

wait til McCaffrey takes over.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

so he lost this game ?? I don't think so, the QB, WRs and defensive injuries were the reason.

 

wait til McCaffrey takes over.

 

 

 

I remember when it was wait for Speight. 

 

The wait for next year talk is a Harbaugh tradition. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

He isn't a winner. He is a great competitor, but not a winner. Because he is too intense, too emotional and not a rational decision maker. He is bascially the same coach he was as a Quarterback. 

 

kaepernick throwing 3 picks in the fourth quarter of the Superbowl is why Harbaugh doesn't have a championship.

 

 

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

I remember when it was wait for Speight. 

 

The wait for next year talk is a Harbaugh tradition. 

 

never claimed Speight to be great. 

 

McCaffrey has the genetics to be great.

 

 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

kaepernick throwing 3 picks in the fourth quarter of the Superbowl is why Harbaugh doesn't have a championship.

 

 

 

Not Harbaugh winding his team up so tight that they were frozen with fear the first half terrified of making a mistake? 

 

That is the reason he lost that Superbowl. After the electricity failed when the players had stood on the side and relaxed they came out and outplayed a team they were better than.

 

He was outcoached by the better Harbaugh. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Not Harbaugh winding his team up so tight that they were frozen with fear the first half terrified of making a mistake? 

 

That is the reason he lost that Superbowl. After the electricity failed when the players had stood on the side and relaxed they came out and outplayed a team they were better than.

 

He was outcoached by the better Harbaugh. 

 

You don't become terrified when you get wound up, you get ready to kick ass, which can cause mistakes but not because of fear.

 

Most coaches get their teams psyched up, it's not a big deal.

 

 

 

[Kirby Jackson]

12 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

so he lost this game ?? I don't think so, the QB, WRs and defensive injuries were the reason.

 

wait til McCaffrey takes over.

 

 

He did a terrible job as he always has. He wasn’t the only reason that they lost but he absolutely was A reason.

[YoloinOhio]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

You don't become terrified when you get wound up, you get ready to kick ass, which can cause mistakes but not because of fear.

 

Most coaches get their teams psyched up, it's not a big deal.

 

 

 

He might need to rethink his strategy

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

You don't become terrified when you get wound up, you get ready to kick ass, which can cause mistakes but not because of fear.

 

Most coaches get their teams psyched up, it's not a big deal.

 

 

 

 

You are 100% wrong in my experience. And I have coached. When you wind people up to that extent you paralyse them and muddy their thinking. 

 

Even that most intense of coaches Tom Coughlin worked that out. Both Giants Superbowl weeks he was careful to relax his guys and instill a sense of calm. Clear heads win. Not "fired up" ass kickers. 

[frostbitmic]

He should be fired ... Who is paying for the billboard ?

[boyst]

can someone update me on the score?  i think tOSU scored just now... my phone died in the start of the 3rd quarter while i was splitting wood.... wait, i think i just heard, tOSU scored again.

 

ok, no, now for real,  <wait, tOSU scored again, i heard that michigan defense was tough <tOSU touchdown...again>... so i come home and see it was 60something points put up on that inbred up country team.

[YoloinOhio]

25 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

so he lost this game ?? I don't think so, the QB, WRs and defensive injuries were the reason.

 

wait til McCaffrey takes over.

 

 

It is the coach’s job to recruit players in college football. If he doesn’t have them or can’t develop him, it’s his fault.

[KD in CA]

Quote

The final – Ohio State 62, Michigan 39 – is a result that will bore deep into the soul of the Michigan fan base. It’s the most points Michigan has yielded in regulation in program history, worse than the 58 points they gave up Cornell in 1891.

 

 

Wow.   Bad time for an historically bad performance.