Cover 1: The Bills Are Changing Their Approach to the WR Position

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Seoul_panther said:

 

 Do you think considering the historic numbers that high octane KC O is putting up that he is finally living up to his draft position and hype? You’re obviously a SW fan but I’m gonna say without any vested interest that his numbers are at best patchy and inconsistent. 

 

 Also it’s funny that Sean McVay didn’t see anything he liked in the WRs in this draft yet all the armchair Gms here know better.

 

As if you know better right here on TSW with the same Armchair GMs.  I'm sure he and Snead wanted a plug and play established player in Cooks whom he knew would fulfill the deep threat role that Watkins vacated up his exit in UFA.

[Seoulofstone]

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I don’t think that it would have transformed the offense but it would have been better. The ability to keep guys away from the LOS helps the running game too. The Bills offensive talent is poor. They need to hit some big plays to contend. We all knew that. This wasn’t going to be an offense that sustains 20 play drives. They had to turn it over on defense, take care of it on offense and make some big plays. The Jets game was an example of what had to happen.

 

Benjamin and Funchess is a nightmare scenario. The league is going the other way. It is guys that can play in space. For me it’s not hindsight because I was screaming for this well before it didn’t work out. They could have even kept Deonte Thompson and I would have been happy. I’m not saying “I can’t believe they didn’t get Julio Jones.” It is more “I can’t believe that these guys think this WR group is fast enough.” 

 

 Fair enough. You are talking about showing intent to fix a lack of speed. My guess is everyone agrees on the importance of that to any offense. But St Brown wouldn’t have brought that- and I say that with hindsight. It would have cost you a better player elsewhere for the sake of scratching an itch.

Edited November 22, 2018 by Seoul_panther

[26CornerBlitz]

 

11 hours ago, NewEra said:

He was an egomanicial diva.  He admitted it. He didn’t have a QB that wouldnt feed him the ball and cried and whines about it while telling us fans that our jobs and lives are basically worthless.  I’m sure he’s a great guy and all of his teammates loved him.  Keep believing that.  McDermott wanted no part of Sammy, the person.  I can’t blame him.  

 

The rams actually traded a 1st rd pick so they could sign a lesser wr to a similar contract.  If they really wanted him THAT bad, they would’ve retained him.  They didn’t.  A year after giving up a 2nd rd pick and a decent CB for him.  Now he’s gone and the rams are even better.  Meanwhile, Sammy has an injured foot.  Imagine that

 

Like many WRs.  Another falsehood regarding what he said on Social Media that was targeted specifically at those who were harrassing him.  If you were not one of them, it wasn't directed at you. 

Edited November 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Seoulofstone]

1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

As if you know better right here on TSW with the same Armchair GMs. 

 

  The difference being that I’m not second guessing a draft after half a season or telling people what should have happened. That would be you. It’s a pity. I respect that you drive a lot of the content on TSW and are clearly passionate. But your biases are rather plain to see.

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Seoul_panther said:

 

  The difference being that I’m not second guessing a draft after half a season or telling people what should have happened. That would be you. It’s a pity. I respect that you drive a lot of the content on TSW and are clearly passionate. But your biases are rather plain to see.

 

You joined here in April and you think you know what I have been advocating for. I find that funny. 

Edited November 22, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[NewEra]

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

 

Like many WRs.  Another falsehood regarding what he said on Social Media that was targeted specifically at those who were harrassing him.  If you were one of them, it wasn't directed at you. 

 

Oh, so egomanicial diva WRs are never a cancer in the locker room? Keep telling yourself that.  

 

Can you imagine if Nate Peterman was as immature as Sammy Watkins and read his social media?  Athletes that don’t live up to fans expectations get razzed on social media.  There have been hundreds of thousands of athletes that have been ripped  on social media and didn’t melt down tell fans that they don’t matter.  That’s part of his character.  That may not matter to YOU and some others here, but Sammy the person, isn’t worthy of being a bill, regardless of his skill.

 

 

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

Oh, so egomanicial diva WRs are never a cancer in the locker room? Keep telling yourself that.  

 

Can you imagine if Nate Peterman was as immature as Sammy Watkins and read his social media?  Athletes that don’t live up to fans expectations get razzed on social media.  There have been hundreds of thousands of athletes that have been ripped  on social media and didn’t melt down tell fans that they don’t matter.  That’s part of his character.  That may not matter to YOU and some others here, but Sammy the person, isn’t worthy of being a bill, regardless of his skill.

 

Hilarious! Seemed to fit in just fine with LA and now KC.  Yet he was unworthy of playing with the mighty Buffalo Bills the pardigm of the league.  Yeah okay. 

Edited November 22, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Seoulofstone]

6 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

You joined here in April and you think you know what I have been advocating for. I find that funny. 

 

 What’s funny is that you think that my join date indicates when I started reading. Surely someone as all knowing as you realizes that I don’t need to join in order to read. Save your petulance for someone else. I wish you and yours a pleasant thanksgiving.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, Seoul_panther said:

 

 What’s funny is that you think that my join date indicates when I started reading. Surely someone as all knowing as you realizes that I don’t need to join in order to read. Save your petulance for someone else. I wish you and yours a pleasant thanksgiving.

 

Bye Panther fan. 

[NewEra]

28 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Hilarious! Seemed to fit in just fine with LA and now KC.  Yet he was unworthy of playing with the mighty Buffalo Bills the pardigm of the league.  Yeah okay. 

You may not have a problem with what he said on twitter but a lot of adults do.  

 

And the fact is the rams wanted him, then let him go.  They could’ve franchised him.  They didnt.  They kept a safety over him.  Say whatever you like, but they didn’t want him enough to keep him.  That’s the fact.  The chiefs now have him and he’s hurt, which is one of tne of the reasons we traded him.  An injury prone egomanicial WR that said the people that pay his bills are worthless.  Mhmmm.  Just what we want.  

 

Become a chiefs fan. That’s your boy.  I’ll stick withy guys.  They guys that broke a 17 year playoff drought while tanking 

[3rdand12]

25 minutes ago, Seoul_panther said:

 

 What’s funny is that you think that my join date indicates when I started reading. Surely someone as all knowing as you realizes that I don’t need to join in order to read. Save your petulance for someone else. I wish you and yours a pleasant thanksgiving.

Bills have shown weaknesses a plenty building an Offense.
Been forever actually. or in hindsight as well.

 If Bills were thinking of starting Allen ? they should have been thinking deep balls. even if his reading presnap was less developed.
If they were thinking : )

 if starting Peterman was the plan ? maybe it was all about timing routes .
no matter how you look at the method and preseason approach, ? It was wrong.
especially at WR.

[26CornerBlitz]

Just now, NewEra said:

You may not have a problem with what he said on twitter but a lot of adults do.  

 

And the fact is the rams wanted him, then let him go.  They could’ve franchised him.  They didnt.  They kept a safety over him.  Say whatever you like, but they didn’t want him enough to keep him.  That’s the fact.  The chiefs now have him and he’s hurt, which is one of tne of the reasons we traded him.  An injury prone egomanicial WR that said the people that pay his bills are worthless.  Mhmmm.  Just what we want.  

 

Become a chiefs fan. That’s your boy.  I’ll stick withy guys.  They guys that broke a 17 year playoff drought while tanking 

 

He wasn't talking to me, so I don't care.  Yeah, so we got Matthews and Gaines who couldn't stay on the field due to injuries. Good point.  Here we go with the silly go root for another team response. Good one. 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

I simply want to give them a chance to complete their vision before saying that they screwed it up

 

there have been unexexpected things that have happened along the way like the ol  zay Jones taking longer the. Expected etc etc

 

they have missed on guys like kb and vd to be sure but this happens to other teams as well the patriots miss on free agency all the time but still have the most important piece

 

it all centers around josh Allen and his future and his future relies on what the bills do this offseason

 

you can’t call it a failure in a rebuilding season

 

 

 

 

Yep.........as Belichick has said..........you basically have to be making bad decisions all of the time to stay bad in the NFL............it's very easy to hover in that 7-9 win range.

 

McBeane have made both good and bad decisions............unfortunately the bad are on one side of the ball..........that's been a pretty common theme with Bills HC fails.

 

Which of course falls on the ownership making the hires.

 

I hope McBeane make it but I also don't  wish us to end up with a coach who is competent but not capable of more.......like a Marvin Lewis, among others.

[3rdand12]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He wasn't talking to me, so I don't care.  Yeah, so we got Matthews and Gaines who couldn't stay on the field due to injuries. Good point.  Here we go with the silly go root for another team response. Good one. 

i am loathe to jump into argument for the sake of argument.
 like i said the Bills f'd up the situation with Offense, compounded by what they put in place for Allen to potentially be working with.
to define the reasons why ?  seems to me a waste of effort. too many points to argue.

lets hope Foster develops off what we saw Daboll call.

 I love someone who can track a deep ball ( awareness). and now that Allen is starting ? I am stoked to watch sunday

[26CornerBlitz]

1 minute ago, 3rdand12 said:

i am loathe to jump into argument for the sake of argument.
 like i said the Bills f'd up the situation with Offense, compounded by what they put in place for Allen to potentially be working with.
to define the reasons why ?  seems to me a waste of effort. too many points to argue.

lets hope Foster develops off what we saw Daboll call.

 I love someone who can track a deep ball ( awareness). and now that Allen is starting ? I am stoked to watch sunday

 

I just hope there are lessons learned by Beane and McDermott that changes their approach to offense and I too want to see how Allen and other young players are progressing. 

[3rdand12]

1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yep.........as Belichick has said..........you basically have to be making bad decisions all of the time to stay bad in the NFL............it's very easy to hover in that 7-9 win range.

 

McBeane have made both good and bad decisions............unfortunately the bad are on one side of the ball..........that's been a pretty common theme with Bills HC fails.

 

Which of course falls on the ownership making the hires.

 

I hope McBeane make it but I also don't  wish us to end up with a coach who is competent but not capable of more.......like a Marvin Lewis, among others.

A wise HC will find his Mirror strength. Sean knows Defense.
He is putting his money on Brian Daboll right now.
The first OC was a penny in a fountain type of coach.
 a Wise Coach will trust his Mirror Coach.

Concepts translate details do not. and the Offense is changing it's face after all. late is better than never
Go Daboll

Just now, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

I just hope there are lessons learned by Beane and McDermott that changes their approach to offense and I too want to see how Allen and other young players are progressing. 

If ya aint  learnin'

 ya aint trying hard enough

[BADOLBILZ]

17 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

A wise HC will find his Mirror strength. Sean knows Defense.
He is putting his money on Brian Daboll right now.
The first OC was a penny in a fountain type of coach.
 a Wise Coach will trust his Mirror Coach.

Concepts translate details do not. and the Offense is changing it's face after all. late is better than never
Go Daboll

 

 

 

The problem being that since the offensive side of the ball is favored by the rules in the current NFL..........if you lose that OC it can totally change the outlook of your team...........and if he's good you WILL lose him quickly. 

 

Much easier to replace a DC.

[NewEra]

36 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

He wasn't talking to me, so I don't care.  Yeah, so we got Matthews and Gaines who couldn't stay on the field due to injuries. Good point.  Here we go with the silly go root for another team response. Good one. 

Because he didn’t say it to you, you don’t care?  You can’t be that childish, can you?  

 

We got draft picks...the players were one year fill ins for the players we traded.  Matthews was worthless.  Gaines is one of the reasons we were in the playoffs.  How many times  did Sammy and Marcel lead us to the playoffs?  

 

Here we go with the same whining and crying and crying and whining because the bills traded away my favorite players.....and then made the playoffs without them.  

 

 

Edited November 23, 2018 by NewEra

[26CornerBlitz]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

Because he didn’t say it to you, you don’t care?  You can’t be that childish, can you?  

 

We got draft picks...the players were one year fill ins for the players we traded.  Matthews was worthless.  Gaines is one of the reasons we were in the playoffs.  How many times time Sammy and Marcel lead us to the playoffs?  

 

Here we go with the same whining and crying and crying and whining because the bills traded away my favorite players.....and then made the playoffs without them.  

 

He didn't say it to you yet you care which seems to me makes your affront childish. They made the playoffs with a negative point differential which was great, but are they a perennial contender?  Nope! So big whoop in the end.  Crying?   It's part of the conversation as to why the receiving corps has been so poor in the last two seasons.  They have yet to effectively replace him with a deep threat that defenses are obliged to respect.  

Edited November 23, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[NoSaint]

19 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

The problem being that since the offensive side of the ball is favored by the rules in the current NFL..........if you lose that OC it can totally change the outlook of your team...........and if he's good you WILL lose him quickly. 

 

Much easier to replace a DC.

 

Thats of course the worry. If allen looks competent next year, Daboll gets offers and you are putting the kid in a new system

 

halfway through the big  window of a rookie qb contract you are starting fresh again, as opposed to the continuity of an offensive head coach seeing success with a young qb