BillsFan1988 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: -2:1 TD to INT -Play his best game of the year -Get rid of the ball quicker -Play above league average on 3rd down -Flourish in the red zone Is this jeopardy ? Things Allen will never learn.
habes1280 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 This doesn't seem to be the year, the team, or the player to measure statistics. I'd like to see signs that he can do what successful quarterbacks do: dictate to the defense instead of simply taking what they give him, work through his reads and find the right targets for his throws, make those throws from time to time, and finally, show that the offense can count on him to provide a spark, make a play, or lead the offense down the field in adverse circumstances. He doesn't have to consistently do ANY of these things, let alone all of them. I understand that he's developing. I just need to see signs that he has these qualities in him-- so stated another way, I need to see him do these things SOMETIMES, and I need to see him doing more of these things by the end of the season than he was at the beginning of it (an admittedly high bar given his performance against the Vikings). He can turn the ball over, make bad decisions, bad reads, bad throws; I just need to see that he can make good ones, as well, and that he's getting incrementally closer to where we need him to be to lead this offense, and this team, at some point in the not-too-distant future.
row_33 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Master the art of running for his life without it looking like Happy Feet 1
JM57 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 I'm sure it's been said but: Pass for more than 85 yards a game is the biggest thing. Don't tuck the ball and run at the slightest hint of pressure Go through progressions and deliver on schedule His WR group still isn't great BUT I think it's improved since he last played, especially with the addition of Thompson as a field stretcher, and it did look like Foster's PS stint made him hungry. There needs to be some semblance of progress in these 6 games.
Jpsredemption Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 Show signs of competence because if it's me running the team I'm looking at all options at QB next year and his garbage play thus far is not working in his favor. 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Stay healthy. Is that the standard? How about some progress or signs he can actually move a team down the field?
row_33 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said: Show signs of competence because if it's me running the team I'm looking at all options at QB next year and his garbage play thus far is not working in his favor. Is that the standard? How about some progress or signs he can actually move a team down the field? they aren't mutually exclusive hopefully he has that tough SOB inner core that Jim Kelly had to take the weekly brutal beating of not having much protection out there
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 17 hours ago, freddyjj said: Lead Bills to wins in 4 of 6 remaining games. 1500 yds passing. 9 TDs, 3 INTs. 240 yds rushing, 3 TDs. Develop rapport with Jones, Croom, McKenzie and Foster. Because all of them will surely be here starting september 2019
C.Biscuit97 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Um...Mahomes personally turned the ball over 5 times. So for as much as the Chiefs were in the game because of Mahomes, they also lost because of him including letting the defense score. I mean they lost by 3, of course those turnovers mattered a ton including throwing a pick with a chance to still tie the game. So he certainly was a heavy contributor to that loss, and one could argue the main reason they lost. I mean he gave the Rams personally 14 points and the ball 3 more times on top of that in a game they lost by 3. Gaudy stats doesn't mean the turnovers get ignored when they directly lead to the loss. Kudos to the kid, he fought his tail off, but the turnovers cost the Chiefs the game. Kid will be alright, he has a short memory and is a fiery competitor...but he still gets to own his turnovers that were the difference in the game. If Josh Allen could ever have that same exact game, you would never post this. Never.
Jerome007 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 19 hours ago, Wroughting said: A deep ball would be nice! YESSSS I agree with almost all posts but I also want to see the Bills O stretch the field. He has the arm, use it!
Alphadawg7 Posted November 22, 2018 Posted November 22, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If Josh Allen could ever have that same exact game, you would never post this. Never. Well that’s a lie. When Fitz took over and threw all those TDs on the vaulted Ravens D and we still loss cuz of his turnovers I was all over him for that while people here were crowning him the next Favre. Ive posted here long enough for you to know I don’t post with bias. If Allen had a 6TD game but had 5 turnovers and we lost....I’d be excited for the kid, but also clearly understand the turnovers lost us the game. If Allen had the same game, all you would do is focus on turnovers to sell your narrative he isn’t good enough. You’d be saying. How bad the Rams D is and that’s why he had 6TDs then say he sucks cuz he turned the ball over 5 times to a bad defense. If you cant acknowledge that 5 turnovers, including 2 that gave up defensive TDs, didn’t direclty contribute to the loss for KC then I don’t know what to tell you. I mean with a chance to tie the game he threw another pcim to seal the loss. Kid had a helluva game, but the only stat that matters is the win/loss column...his mistakes cost them the W as much as heroics kept them in the game. But he lost and gets to own that and move on. Doesn’t diminish his season, but fanboys can never accept accountability, you guys act like it means he sucks or something. Best QBs in history all had games they lost for their teams. He lost this game, period. He also fought back and almost stole it, but in the end, he couldn’t over come his 5 turnovers and Chiefs lost. Edited November 22, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1
Mike in Horseheads Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Win them all and take the Bills back to the playoffs.?
Kangaxx Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 11 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: If Josh Allen could ever have that same exact game, you would never post this. Never. Why don't you just become a Chiefs fan?
Dadonkadonk Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 12:52 PM, Kirby Jackson said: -2:1 TD to INT -Play his best game of the year -Get rid of the ball quicker -Play above league average on 3rd down -Flourish in the red zone Perfect answer. 1
bills11 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Show improvement in processing what he's seeing..show improved anticipation and ball placement..show improved pocket presence and patience
frostbitmic Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Play ... Experience is a great thing, Everything else will take care of itself.
KW95 - JA17 Posted November 23, 2018 Posted November 23, 2018 Try to hit receivers in the hands, not 15 yards above or short. ( The next EJ Manual )
freddyjj Posted November 25, 2018 Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 9:27 AM, MILFHUNTER#518 said: Because all of them will surely be here starting september 2019 not sure if you were being sarcastic but Foster and Mcenzie with TDs today
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