Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 19, 2018 Author Posted November 19, 2018 Just now, MrEpsYtown said: Im just having some fun! Oh, got it. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 7 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Looks solid, but he’s listed as 6’2” and 220 By comparison Trace McSorley is 205 lbs soaking wet. Some of these running QBs are more slot receiver than Hill. Taysom runs that zone read down hill. He plays on coverage units. That’s in addition to the rest of his role (punt returns, Rb, wr, QB). Those other guys can do some of what Taysom does but not all of it.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: I think Tasom Hill is the reason the Saints are reaching a higher level of offense. But is he a gimmick or is this a new position for the NFL ? Could call him the Jack Back. New like Kordell Stewart new or like Brad Smith new?
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: By comparison Trace McSorley is 205 lbs soaking wet. Some of these running QBs are more slot receiver than Hill. Taysom runs that zone read down hill. He plays on coverage units. That’s in addition to the rest of his role (punt returns, Rb, wr, QB). Those other guys can do some of what Taysom does but not all of it. Point granted, but you'd mentioned Lamar Jackson who's listed as 6'3", 212. Not sure 8 lbs makes that big of a difference. I don't think they'll be playin LJax on coverage units though - you never know.
McBean Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 If it wasn’t for Hill I don’t think the Saints could win a game.
Mr. WEO Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 What is the "effect" of this guy? Seems like every time he gets put in we can all anticipate an incomplete pass. Couple of carries a game. When he's in there and Brees isn't, I always assumed Brees is behind the blue tent taking a leak.
GunnerBill Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I can say this, he’s a GOD in New Orleans. They LOVE him. He is a weird, special, alien. I think that his role is a growing one around the league. He’s a guy that can create matchup issues because you never know where he will line up. Every team would love a Taysom Hill but not every team has him (or Sean Payton). How does his package compare to Joe Webb's though? 1
Kirby Jackson Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Point granted, but you'd mentioned Lamar Jackson who's listed as 6'3", 212. Not sure 8 lbs makes that big of a difference. I don't think they'll be playin LJax on coverage units though - you never know. Lamar Jackson is a QB. That’s different IMO. He can run a lot but throws well. That’s why he went in the first. These other guys are more “gadget” players. They CAN play QB but can also play all over. Jackson has done some of it this year but his long-term plan is QB. They won’t expose him to the collisions on a coverage team. Taysom, to me, is a fast Tim Tebow (with a genius coach). Edited November 19, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 1
HomeskillitMoorman Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Hill is not a gimmick. Most of the plays he's in for tend to work.
Rigotz Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Nobody has ever done this before ... DEFINITELY not Kordell Stewart 20 years ago when he lined up at QB, RB, and WR and was called "Slash" instead of "Jack Back."
DC Tom Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: It should. He never called me an idiot (before I became a mod) and I not-secretly feel deprived. That which is understood need not be discussed. 1
msw2112 Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Hill is a good football player and a contributor to the Saints success, but they would still be doing very well without him. While some have mentioned Brad Smith and Kordell Stewart, a better comparison that goes back a number of years is Jim Jensen of the Dolphins. He came into the league as a QB, but played receiver, tight end, running back, special teams and threw the occasional pass. I think he was bigger and more physical than Smith and Stewart (his nickname was "Crash"), which makes him a better comparison to Hill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jensen_(wide_receiver) Edited November 19, 2018 by msw2112
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 19, 2018 Author Posted November 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: New like Kordell Stewart new or like Brad Smith new? different areas, today's coaches are more willing to stay unconventional than in the past.
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