Ed Oliver won't be a Buffalo Bill

[Kirby Jackson]

I said it elsewhere but it is a way worse look for Applewhite. He came across as a petulant child. He was like a referee on a power trip. He confronted the best player in program history because he was wearing a coat!! He was trying to flex his muscle and came across looking ridiculous. He physically tried to remove a coat!! 

 

Applewhite should be embracing Oliver not trying to show who has more power. Oliver can easily say “I’m good” and never put on a Houston uniform again. He still goes early in the 1st and this issue has ZERO lasting impact on him. It’s a much bigger  issue that an average college coach pushes away an All-American. 

[Believer]

Nope... Kid has some serious growing up to do... With a multimillion dollar contract... Odds are he will be just another talented player whose attitude isn’t worth the risk to the team... Pass...

[buffalobillswin]

Typical college coaches exerting their power over the powerless. Disgusting

 

Hope Oliver sits out the entire season.

[Billschinatown]

28 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

If there's a rule those jackets are for the guys playing in the game and working up a sweat on the field, I would imagine the players know that.

It might be that the coaches think he can play and he's trying to stay healthy, and the coaches are frustrated about that and taking it out how they can

It seems as though the coaches were petty (and why can't they just buy more of those jackets?), but the players tantrum was not a good look.

 

He kind of looks pudgy

 

If you think he looks pudgy...I definitely won't be posting any selfies here.

[Happy]

13 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Classic example of making a mountain out of a molehill. 

 

I disagree only because this is a simple rule, as small as it may be.  But that is the culture of U of H which all players have to live with.  I don't know if Oliver has had behavioral problems in the past, but it's not a good look for him now.  Oliver seems like a brat, and if I were a pro scout I'd look deeper into this as well as his past if I'm contemplating spending a 1st round pick on him.

[26CornerBlitz]

14 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

I disagree only because this is a simple rule, as small as it may be.  But that is the culture of U of H which all players have to live with.  I don't know if Oliver has had behavioral problems in the past, but it's not a good look for him now.  Oliver seems like a brat, and if I were a pro scout I'd look deeper into this as well as his past if I'm contemplating spending a 1st round pick on him.

 

Sounds like a losing team mentality to look for an excuse to not draft great players.  Applewhite himself realizes it was no big deal. 

Edited November 17, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz

[Happy]

2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:

 

Sounds like a losing team mentality to look for an excuse to not draft great players.  Applewhite himself realizes it was no big deal. 

 

And I could be wrong with my initial assessment.  I would want to see if there were other problems in his past before committing to him.

[Mountain Man]

1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:

It's not about the rule...

 

Besides, the inactive players have other hoodies and stuff to wear.

 

It's about his attitude and reaction. 

 

I wonder what other things we may hear leading up to the draft....

It's no worse than players having a scrap in training camp. Or you see multiple times across the league every week.

[26CornerBlitz]

6 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:

 

And I could be wrong with my initial assessment.  I would want to see if there were other problems in his past before committing to him.

 

Standard practice for every player who might be drafted. 

[billsfan1959]

I have no idea why they have such a rule; however, it is a rule. If the players and coaches decide to discuss it and change it, so be it. But, until then, it is a rule, no matter how trivial it seems. With that said, Applewhite could have simply told Oliver to take it off without physically trying to remove it - or, even better, waited until halftime to address it in the locker room. As for Oliver, definitely not a good look to have to be physically restrained by a teammate. I don't know anything about Oliver or Applewhite, in regard to the types of people they are, or the dynamics of their particular relationship - or what personal issue either or both may be dealing with in their respective lives. 

 

Hopefully, nothing more than a single incident.

[Chicken Boo]

1 hour ago, Peter said:

"Major" overreaction by Ed Oliver.

 

Major pettiness by the head coach.

 

 

[Needle]

I've read that a handful of players came out with jackets on and when asked to follow the rules they removed them. Oliver obviously didn't and that was probably just a breaking point for a frustrated staff.

 

Oliver is sitting out to protect his future and I completely understand that. Trying to run around and make leaping OBJ style catches during warmups is clueless though. 

 

I don't agree with notion that a coach has to let him get away with this stuff because he's a great talent. I actually think coaches that ignore disrespectful behavior are doing a disservice to the kid.

 

I wouldn't cross Oliver's name off my list though. He is a kid and talented. It makes sense to do your due diligence and look into him but keep in mind that many of these prospects will have work to do on their self control. They are superstars in their world and have to grow into it.

 

[CLTbills]

53 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Id venture the thought is they don’t feel the need to get oversized jackets for players not in pads and those guys likely have plenty of other options

 

applewhite probably shouldn’t have rolled up and pulled it off him without saying anything but given how it went down I’m guessing both sides were a bit frustrated with other things bubbling under the surface 

This is kind of where I was going with it. If you have 90 active players that need them, why would you buy 100 when you have plenty other apparel options for the guys that aren't active?

[Bobby Hooks]

I love how guys always pick on their girlfriends and wives about watching lifetime movies and reality garbage/drama tv but then turn around and make their sports into that exact thing. 

 

Nothing to see here boys, move along... 

 

[mead107]

1 hour ago, BringBackFergy said:

If we draft Ed Oliver I’ll eat my snow jacket. 

 

There is noooo frickin’ way McProcess wants that kind of attitude on our team. 

I will put some special sauce on it for you ?

Edited November 17, 2018 by mead107

[Mr. WEO]

If he wants to put on the big coat, he just has to go out there and play....

[26CornerBlitz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

If he wants to put on the big coat, he just has to go out there and play....

 

He's done plenty for the school both on and off the field: Ed Oliver Jersey : NCAA Houston Cougars College Football Jerseys Sale Official Store!

[Bob in STL]

5 hours ago, Mountain Man said:

I think Ed Oliver is one of the most likely Bills draft candidates if we draft top 10. He fits a natural need as Kyle Williams replacement. 

 

The coach is the one at fault, not helped by that interview, its a stupid rule and I can see why a player would react

 

Not sure I agree that it’s the coaches fault but that is the way things are today.  There was a time when a coach would not try to be so understanding after a player erupts at him on the sideline.  Dumb rule or not. 

 

Oh well.  

Edited November 17, 2018 by Bob in STL

[Ol Dirty B]

5 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

Throws a tantrum at his coach when he has to follow the rules like his teammates.

 

 

Spoiled princesses don't fit the Process

 

 

 

 

 

 

You're the reason why Brandon Beane drafts Josh Allen and says some stupid ***** like this guy is Buffalo after being here for all of 6 months 

3 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

 

Nit sure I agree that it’s the coaches fault but that is the way things are today.  There was a time when a coach would not try to be so understanding after a player erupts at him on the sideline.  Dumb rule or not. 

 

Oh well.  

 

He has been roundly criticized as an idiot. But you know mainstream media and this and that, you're definitely smarter than everyone.

 

He was wearing a coat. The coach is a joke. You can't wear a ***** team jacket on the sidelines? ***** that dude.

30 minutes ago, CLTbills said:

This is kind of where I was going with it. If you have 90 active players that need them, why would you buy 100 when you have plenty other apparel options for the guys that aren't active?

 

You're really going to go down the financial route when these schools rely on free labor?

[JohnC]

1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I said it elsewhere but it is a way worse look for Applewhite. He came across as a petulant child. He was like a referee on a power trip. He confronted the best player in program history because he was wearing a coat!! He was trying to flex his muscle and came across looking ridiculous. He physically tried to remove a coat!! 

 

Applewhite should be embracing Oliver not trying to show who has more power. Oliver can easily say “I’m good” and never put on a Houston uniform again. He still goes early in the 1st and this issue has ZERO lasting impact on him. It’s a much bigger  issue that an average college coach pushes away an All-American. 

Who comes it with such a ridiculously stupid rule? It's moronic and reflective of an archaic Woody Hayes era maniacal control. Whether the players are inactive or active there should be enough coats for the players. Even if there were not enough coats for everyone not everyone was wearing one so no active player was being deprived of a jacket. 

 

Where I have a different take from you is that whether the player is a marquee player or a scrub the coach has no business pulling the jacket off of the player in order to humiliate the player. The coach could have handled it differently like having an assistant approach the player or wait until half-time to discuss the issue. 

 

The issue here is common sense and good/reasonable judgment. The fool here is the coach who acted like a jackass to publicly assert his authority to embarrass a player. More often than not the issue goes beyond a nonsensical rule to the real issue of how a trivial problem becomes a bigger problem because of the way it was handled.