Wonder how long it will remain "New Era Field"?

[Captain Hindsight]

14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

Sold a lot of sports apparel back in the day.

 

New Era hands down had the best selection and quality of sports headgear 

Amen to that. I forgot a winter hat at a winter game a few years ago and bought a new one at the stadium. Best I ever bought. New Era has me for life based on that

[SoCal Deek]

14 hours ago, Dr.Sack said:

 

So you are on the record as favoring socialism for the rich. ??

 

Amazon doesn’t need these tax breaks no more than Buffalo taxpayers among the poorest in cities over 200,000 need to kick-in $500 million for a new stadium. 

 

Just so we are clear, do you think WNY taxpayers should be on the hook for providing subsidies to billionaire natural gas tycoons like Terrence & Kimberly Pegula? 

 

 

Might I suggest that you stop watching the NFL and switch to local high school sports? It’s much cheaper and won’t require an outlay of your cash. I’m not trying to be nasty but major league sports are a big business and everyone in them, including the players are in it to make big money. It’s far from a bunch of guys playing in their backyard.

[Soda Popinski]

Moving production to Florida???   I wonder where they are building the plant.   

[May Day 10]

I bet Russ Brandon did this that day that he worked there

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

Moving production to Florida???   I wonder where they are building the plant.   

 

It sounds like they already have a plant there, and have it only because their MLB contract stipulates on-field worn hats must be manufactured in the USA.

 

Lurker nailed it above;  NewEra is no longer a manufacturing company.

Edited November 14, 2018 by KD in CA

[jr1]

overstock.com had naming rights with the Raiders. It doesn't seem to matter if a company has local presence

[Mrbojanglezs]

NY is crappy state to manufacturer in unless the the ring leader Cuomo cuts you an insider deal

Edited November 14, 2018 by Mrbojanglezs

[NoHuddleKelly12]

18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

So why did Amazon locate their HQ2 in NYC?

Because they are being "gifted" almost 2BN in tax credits/savings from the state to do so...a break no small businesses (relatively speaking) could ever count on.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/48k-per-amazon-hq-job

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

18 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

So why did Amazon locate their HQ2 in NYC?

 

Tax breaks?

[YoloinOhio]

30 minutes ago, jr1 said:

overstock.com had naming rights with the Raiders. It doesn't seem to matter if a company has local presence

They still do have a local presence. Their HQ with 300+ employees is in Buffalo. They are just moving one of the plants. 

[frostbitmic]

Adam & Eve would be a perfect replacement for New Era once their deal expires. With all of the sex toys thrown at Brady they would seem a fit.

[mead107]

Here is an offer you can’t refuse - 

Buy a meadcoin and all proceeds will go to naming the new  Bills Stadium 

 

MEADCOIN FIELD. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

21 hours ago, fansince88 said:

Yes. Election day. Businesses cant afford to do business in NYS 

 

Correction. Companies cant afford to pay manufacturing labor for apparel in the US 

Edited November 14, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[Buffalo Barbarian]

22 hours ago, \GoBillsInDallas/ said:

New Era closing Buffalo plant, moving production to Florida:

 

http://buffalonews.com/2018/11/13/new-era-plans-closure-of-derby-manufacturing-plant-in-march-2019/

 

 

 

NY state, driving businesses out of state , good job morons 

 

 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

21 hours ago, fansince88 said:

 

Oh, just this.

Incentives from New York state: $1.525 billion, including:

• $1.2 billion in refundable tax credits from state’s Excelsior Program over 10 years, based on the creation of 25,000 jobs that pay an average of $150,000.
• $325 million from Empire State Development based on how much space Amazon takes over the next decade.

• Incentives from New York City:

• Amazon said it would apply for a New York City subsidy program that would provide it property-tax abatements for up to 25 years.
• The company also is to seek incentives under a city program that could provide $3,000 in tax credits per eligible employee over 12 years, implying a $900 million benefit if all 25,000 workers are eligible. Amazon may also be eligible for other tax credits.

 

Cool, now business can go on welfare while our taxes go up.

 

 

3 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said:

People leaving NYS is driven by weather. 6 months out of every year, sucks, unless you Ski,(etc.)

PERSONAL income taxes are too high. Corp tax rates in NYS (or lack thereof) are a friggin' joke

 

The weather, please, people leave because jobs are leaving and taxes are extortion level.

[LSHMEAB]

2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Correction. Companies cant afford to pay manufacturing labor for apparel in the US 

If you took the time to actually read the article, this has very little to do with NY vs. Florida and a great deal to do with US vs. China, Vietnam, and Haiti.

 

Additionally;

 

From the article: “For me,” he said, “the cultural change was to have people really spend most of the day talking about those things.”

 

If the company is shifting it's business model from manufacturing to fashion and licencing, would you rather have a site in Derby, NY or Miami? That's not to bash Derby, but I don't really see trendsetting innovation coming from that hamlet.

 

They're essentially setting up a sham operation in Miami in order to meet certain criteria for the deal. Nevertheless, their new business model probably favors a site in South Florida, all things being equal. 

 

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

14 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

If you took the time to actually read the article, this has very little to do with NY vs. Florida and a great deal to do with US vs. China, Vietnam, and Haiti.

 

Additionally;

 

From the article: “For me,” he said, “the cultural change was to have people really spend most of the day talking about those things.”

 

If the company is shifting it's business model from manufacturing to fashion and licencing, would you rather have a site in Derby, NY or Miami? That's not to bash Derby, but I don't really see trendsetting innovation coming from that hamlet.

 

They're essentially setting up a sham operation in Miami in order to meet certain criteria for the deal. Nevertheless, their new business model probably favors a site in South Florida, all things being equal. 

 

 

 

 

Right so instead of being about doing business in NY, one could say

 

29 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

Companies cant afford to pay manufacturing labor for apparel in the US 

 

[LSHMEAB]

1 minute ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

 

Right so instead of being about doing business in NY, one could say

 

 

Right. I didn't disagree with that assessment chief.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

18 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:

Right. I didn't disagree with that assessment chief.

 

The ‘if you read’ had me thinking otherwise. 

 

For  a company of their revenue a 200 employee shop seems like peanuts but in what little info is there, margins are so lousey shifting mfg off shore is probably a survival move. 

[Lurker]

3 hours ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Because they are being "gifted" almost 2BN in tax credits/savings from the state to do so...a break no small businesses (relatively speaking) could ever count on.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/48k-per-amazon-hq-job

 

 

$2 billion in tax credits (i.e., credits against future tax bills, not actual cash payments) over ten years seems like a fair price to pay for 25,000 new jobs paying $150,000 per year (a total of $38 billion over ten years).    Not a bad investment at all...